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PS5 announced for 2020 Holiday Season

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I'm actually surprised more people don't just wait it out a bit, simply due to early fail rates of 1st gen machines. Not to mention the life cycles and how they're basically releasing upgraded versions of the consoles every year or so now. Combine that with the inevitable weak launch lineup, and a slow transition period for developers, and I really don't know why anyone buys a console at launch.

Same reason I ain’t buying the ps5 in dec.
they invariably launch a boosted version after a year or so plus the weak initial launch games. Nah.

I’ll stick with my PS4 till next December. Might upgrade it with a 2 tb SSHD or a 4 tb SSD (only if the ssd can be switched to the ps5).
 
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Sooo........PS 5 gud or no ?
XSX is a significantly more powerful unit, but I don't think that will matter materially, because unlike the Nintendo Switch, for example, the PS5 isn't so much weaker that it will only run severely nerfed versions of the most demanding AAA titles, and it has all the inertia. It has the massive base, and the brand loyalty. Microsoft needs to offer something revolutionary, or for Sony to egregiously botch their launch (like MS did with the XB1 in 2013), or the pendulum won't swing. Well, they aren't. The XSX is just an upgrade.

Microsoft has won the pre-game on nearly every front except the crappy requirement for specific Seagate External drives if you want to play the games directly off the external drives. Every year SSDs crash in price on the open market, and that includes external SSDs, while simultaneously game sizes increase. I think console gamers might end up valuing the ability to choose from those competitive prices for external expansion more than they value the superior hardware horsepower of the XSX. Still, that's niche stuff. Most owners don't buy expansion drives.

Big picture, though? All the console gamers in here have already figured it out, and the jig is up. Obviously both consoles are cooking up weak launch libraries, again, and they don't really bring any earthshaking technological breakthrough or software service. Consoles have entered a new PC age, alright; the age where you really won't have to worry about buying a new rig until your current one breaks, runs like shit, or can't play a specific game you want to play. The "next gen" is no longer a Day 1 must to ride that thrilling gaming wave of the-future-is-here.
 
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This is the first time I can remember thinking I won't need a gaming PC anymore. Crazy times ahead so fasten your seat belts!
 
Nice, a Tomb Raider game with that graphics technology would be incedible
 
Another tech demo that's going to disappoint a lot of suckers.

What's so hard to believe about this trailer? We already know Guerilla is working on a Horizon Zero Dawn sequel that is said to be the new benchmark. When I watched the PS4 tech demo back in the day I knew it was all bullshit because nothing about the PS3 even suggested we were that close. However this tech demo isn't that far-fetched.
 


I don’t think this is far fetched at all.
 
What's so hard to believe about this trailer? We already know Guerilla is working on a Horizon Zero Dawn sequel that is said to be the new benchmark. When I watched the PS4 tech demo back in the day I knew it was all bullshit because nothing about the PS3 even suggested we were that close. However this tech demo isn't that far-fetched.
Because it's normal when it comes to bullshots, generation after generation. I'm not saying it's gonna suck but curb your expectations.
 
What's so hard to believe about this trailer?

a high res, 30 fps with no NPCs/etc can be an accurate representation of lighting/scenery/etc with low motion.

if people expect their ps5 games to look like that at 4k and with decent frames... with NPCs and particle effects and etc... well, they'll probably be disappointed.
 
...so... you're... getting the new xbox, then?

I still haven’t made up my mind. I have a Ps4, Xbox One and a Switch all collecting dust so I fear it wouldn’t be long before that would too.
I don’t get as much fun out of playing games as I used to but I don’t think I could stop following what’s going on in the games industry. It’s going to be wait and see for me.
 
i remember a time when i used to think these kind of videos were cool but now i just dont care about graphics anymore
 
a high res, 30 fps with no NPCs/etc can be an accurate representation of lighting/scenery/etc with low motion.

if people expect their ps5 games to look like that at 4k and with decent frames... with NPCs and particle effects and etc... well, they'll probably be disappointed.

This.

If that was running at 4K/60FPS I would be impressed.

Otherwise, if this is the standard for the next generation of consoles at 1440p/30FPS, it is pretty disappointing.

Edit - I just watched the full demo in full resolution, rather than the compressed video from twitter, and my impressions have improved... slightly.

*It really does look beautiful, but I'd need to see more from different resolutions and see the framerates. I prefer smoothness & fast response times to photorealistic detail.

*I'm not a fan of the Uncharted series (though I've played all of them) so perhaps if I see a few different demos displaying different genres of games I would be more excited.

*The technical jargon of the demo was annoying - seems like they mentioned 'triangles' a dozen times.

*My question is - Is it easy to develop for? So developers will have an easier time to develop games for it? That means it will cut down development time, fewer/no bugs, and games will be released on their initial release dates.

*One thing that I found interesting that has been under-reported... Independent developers & studios can use UnrealEngine5 for free, and Epic will only take a cut of the sales after a game makes over $1 million in revenue. That would REALLY cut the costs for smaller studios, and independent programmers can learn the software before working at bigger game studios.

I wonder what launch titles for the new consoles, and releases coming out in the next year, will be using Unreal Engine5.
 
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i remember a time when i used to think these kind of videos were cool but now i just dont care about graphics anymore
It is also 3d audio

:)

Also, I was thinking, that if games with UE5 won't be released until 2021. If Sony really wants, they could just release demos like this with PS5 on release date. That people could play with them, that would be cool. Also as I understand this is not about 4k oled tv's. But all package will look great even on normal 1080 tvs...
 

What's so hard to believe about this trailer? We already know Guerilla is working on a Horizon Zero Dawn sequel that is said to be the new benchmark. When I watched the PS4 tech demo back in the day I knew it was all bullshit because nothing about the PS3 even suggested we were that close. However this tech demo isn't that far-fetched.
It's not about something being beyond the realm of belief, but beyond the immediate realm of practical gaming reality. Here was the photorealistic demo of Unreal Engine 4-- with "quixels"-- from over a year ago (Mar-2019). Have you seen any game that actually looks like this-- even on PCs?

 
Quite a good thing for Sony tbh, the random FIFA, COD playing casual will see that and think.

Wait that’s the weaker console, that looks better than the MS show.

They won’t think about shit like ai, weather or other in game physics meaning the graphical fidelity will get scaled back.
 
idk which one i am less excited for PS5 or Xbox, is a shit show so far
 
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