I remember that school had a reputation as being more commercial and was known for holding their students back and not promoting them to black belt. I trained there for a one day free class and it seemed a bit strict (beginners not allowed to roll/free train until 3 months, while other schools let you roll from day one). I chose the smaller but more relaxed RCJ Machado academy, also in Torrance, CA. They were more balanced in that they did a lot of no-gi and also had many people cross training from other gyms there, and a few MMA fighter students like pre-TUF Andy Wang (LOL) and Ricco Rodriguez. And since Rigan was a Carlos Gracie Jr. protege we had many well known Gracie Barra guests coming in occasionally. Have things changed at Gracie Torrance now that it's run by Rorion's sons? Does Ralek still train and teach there? Do they still put beginners through street self-defense crash courses? And do they still emphasize gi training over no-gi? This was a common conflict in the more conservative gyms. Students with MMA ambitions wanted more no-gi training but Brazilian instructors kept insisting that the gi training makes you more technical in no-gi. And are there any well known fighters besides Ortega to come out of that gym? I know Brendan Schaub trained BJJ there...but that seemed more part time and it was later in his career. And I know Ronda also trained there part time for a brief while as well. But are there any other guys who started their careers under Gracie Torrance?