Pro’s vs Con’s of USADA

[GrayArea]

imagine if there was no usada during this era of fighters? We’d be able to see natural athletic beasts like Costa, Greg Hardy, Romero, and Usman enhance themselves to the next level of fighting. Shit, even older past prime guys like Hendricks, gsp, fedor, or Belfort might end up making extended returns/debut to the UFC.

Do you prefer the old days when some guys could push a frenetic 25 minute pace while also being less than 10% body fat with 3D sets?

Or do you prefer this era where we have constant injury pullouts and suspensions ruining cards and potential matchups?

 

[BoD 2.0]

Nobody should be taking anything illegal or prohibited anyway, so why not have USADA.

I'm all for it.

 

[BlameTheMedia]

Peds that help recover and prevent injuries like tb500 and hgh should be allowed.

Pros of usada: Makes casuals think most athlete are natural.

Cons: More injuries, less exciting fight, People who actually know how to pass drug tests have an even bigger advantage now.

 

[Iron Nick]

I'd prefer even stricter testing.

Clean(er) sports > sports where doping is allowed.

EDIT: i made a post about this issue a little more than a month ago: https://forums.sherdog.com/threads/...-legalization-of-peds-inside-the-ufc.4009319/

 

[TheNinja]

PROS:
Pre USADA super young prospect Erick Silva.

CONS:
Post USADA semi-young prospect Erick Silva.

 

[Summoning]

 

[Local Plata]

Pros: Jon Jones can cheat without anyone else being 'allowed' to cheat.
Cons: Slower, weaker, smaller athletes.

 

[FrontNakedChoke]

There are no pro's to USADA.

If you want a clean sport, it's easy to demonstrate that USADA's testing isn't up to snuff.
They weren't even testing for EPO as recently as a year.

The sport will never be clean.
Time to even the playing field and make MMA great again.

 

[Vincentsky]

In before.. oh there it is

 

[Jon's Drug Dealer]

Pros:
Cheat undetected and gain credibility.
Cons:
Get caught and taint your legacy and reveal to the world that your dick doesn't work.

 

[Fergelmince]

Nobody should be taking anything illegal or prohibited anyway, so why not have USADA.

I'm all for it.

 

[BoD 2.0]

 

[BZeee]

PROS: DC, Bisping, Diaz, etc
CONS: Jon Jones, Brock Lesnar, All of Brazil

Some people are pros about the process, other people try to con their way through the game.

 

[Only Here for Attachments]

Pros:
- Makes MMA marginally more palatable to the masses
- Makes naive altruists feel better

Cons:
- Negatively impacts fighter performance across the board
- Negatively impacts fight quality across the board
- Less recovery = fewer fights/more fights with injuries
- Fighters fight more cautiously and safer
- Weight cuts are more difficult/harder to recover from
- Disrupts fighter training and sleep

 

[flyingscissorsheelhook]

Pro:
"Clean" sport.

Con:
I kind of miss juiced up steroid monsters beating the shit out of each other.

 

[Airdack]

All cons. All it did was raise the barrier of entry into doping. Look at the difference from when USADA was implemented until now. Fighters became deflated and softer, slowly the ridiculous bodies with great cardio started coming back. Now a lot of guys look pre-usada again.

All it did was eliminate the cheaper, easier methods for doping. Fighters with the money and connections can get undetectable substances or methods. Most low level fighters won't have the ability to source these products.

They should just tell USADA to fuck off and just rely on commission testing. We need the good Ole days back.

 

[Congo66]

This 'discussion' should be done.

There are no arguments against USADA (or drug testing in general) unless you want the sport dropped from tv, the money to vanish from it, most sponsors to drop it and if you want MMA (or the UFC) to be BKFC where no one watches it and it just attracts washed up old people from other sports to do it.

That's without going into all the law suits if anyone was ever injured.

 

[vgff]

imagine if there was no usada during this era of fighters? We’d be able to see natural athletic beasts like Costa, Greg Hardy, Romero, and Usman enhance themselves to the next level of fighting. Shit, even older past prime guys like Hendricks, gsp, fedor, or Belfort might end up making extended returns/debut to the UFC.

Do you prefer the old days when some guys could push a frenetic 25 minute pace while also being less than 10% body fat with 3D sets?

Or do you prefer this era where we have constant injury pullouts and suspensions ruining cards and potential matchups?

this era. when it becomes all about who's got the best dope connections, it's harder to believe that talent and hard work is important

 

[humdizzle]

pros:
fair fight. better health outcomes for the athlete. skill > power.

cons:
people pop and fights get cancelled.

 

[Xuh]

Cons: More injuries, less exciting fight

Are fights really less exciting since USADA or is this just one of those things ppl say for no real reason and everyone else parrots?