Prime Fedor vs Fabricio Werdum

[NoBiasJustMMA]

Tell that to robbie lawler

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Robbie Lawler did the opposite of Fedor, as he got older his training improved and he worked on becoming more well rounded, Fedor became more one dimentional and wasn't strength training like he used to or training his grappling as much.

 

[Flex Plexico]

shodor

 

[Perrichet]

Werdum already beat prime Fedor.

 

[TheNinja]

I do believe that Fedor in his prime would likely beat anyone. However if they fought now and had a rematch, I believe Werdum would win again. And I a HUGE Fedor fan but his time is gone. Doesn't mean I don't want him in the UFC though. I still wish for it to happen but it won't.

 

[krelianx]

Depends on how many times they fought.

There is a very good chance Fedor would have lost the first time around in just the way he did. He tried to apply the same gameplan as he did with Nog: punish him on his feet, dive into the guard, shrugg off the triangle, deliver punishment. Unfortunately for him, Werdum's guard is much tighter and faster, his grip is better than Nog's. Werdum is just bigger, and stronger than Nog. Fedor couldn't shove the triangle like that, not because he 'wasn't in his prime', but because he was baited into arguably the most dangerous guard in MMA history, and certainly the most dangerous guard in HW history. Barnett analyzed the fight this way, and I agree.

With that said, I think once he modified his strategy, in a rematch, avoiding the ground like the plague, he would have outstruck and beat Werdum. For all that's said, Werdum's striking is still quite unrefined. But of course it's always possible he just gets him on the feet and finishes it from the getgo. Knowing Werdum: he will pull guard as soon as he feels danger, so I think chances are Fedor would have fallen for the trap anyway.

I think Fedor would win the majority of times, but would lose the first fight thus. I think he is a better fighter overall than Werdum, but Werdum could have capitalized on a gameplan error.

 

[JohnnyTowers]

Werdum triangle choked Fedor out of his prime. Fedor has never been the same since.

 

[CTYankee]

Just because he was still undefeated doesn't mean he was in his prime.

Just because he lost doesn't mean he wasn't.

 

[JudoThrowFiasco]

Yeah, 34 isn't your biological prime. That's just science.

I still think Werdum would beat young Fedor, but he was far from being the best version of Fedor.

34 isn't old, especially for HW - the average age for the top 10 HW's is over 35

 

[johnmangala]

Is it possible Fedor went back to Japan cause he's scared of the strict testing?

 

[Danespina]

Werdum has gotten a lot better since that bout.

 

[Magnum1978]

Prime Fedor is the best fighter I've ever seen fight - and probably the most 'ahead of the curve' a fighter has ever been... That said the game has changed, especially in the cage. It would be tough. I certainly think he could win, but so could Werdum

In the ring/full pride rules (which the current game has devolved away from), prime Fedor would easily be the favourite against anyone in history

 

[basedgodfedor]

I think Fedor would win but when they fought werdum won because werdum has
Goat heavyweight guard and Fedor played with fire. In a rematch Fedor would stay away from the grappling and box him up

 

[gspieler]

34 isn't old, especially for HW - the average age for the top 10 HW's is over 35

The question was whether 34 is past physical prime...which it is. Especially for a guy who had been on top for 7 years and had over 30 professional fights. Besides which, 2010 =/= 2015. 2010 was Fedor, Cain, Brock, JDS, Werdum, Arlovski, Mir, etc. It was clearly a younger division then.

 

[Blayt7hh]

Yeah I know who'd win...Werdum already did. You can't sit here and say fedor was out of his prime because of 1 loss

.... followed by 2 more?

 

[Deleted member 110072]

If memory servesme correct, bigfoot and Werdum never went to the ground and i can assure you that as much as fabricio wanted Reem to jump into his guard in their 2nd fight, that never happened, see praying gif.

Memory doesn't serve you well, both those fights went to the ground.

 

[Beer Fist]

Fantasy MMA forum.

 

[danny23]

Don't make me choose,they're both my most fav HW's.
Two of the best HW's of all time.

Idk,50/50,could go either way.

 

[Nobru]

It would have made no difference if Fedor was on his prime that fight. He was caught in a master trap by Werdoom. Having a few years less would mean nothing. There is no way to escape that kind of triangle.

 

[Milgrim]

Fedor was in his prime. He just messed up. He had Werdum in trouble and went for the finish - the same kind of aggressiveness that won him a bunch of fights. The problem is, when it doesn't work, it looks foolish. Fedor kept going for the finish even though everyone watching could plainly see that Werdum was setting up the triangle.

There will be a lot of bad responses from the Fedor haters of Sherdog, but I'm not one of them. I still think Fedor was the best HW ever. But even at his best, Werdum beat him, because Fedor made a dumb mistake and Werdum is too good not to capitalize.

 

[Uncle Termite]

Fedor would win in similar fashion JDS k.od Werdum. I believe we will geta somewhat blue print of what would happen when Cain fights him again.


there also seems to be confusion of what prime actually is...and its not age...its when you are at peak performance which MANY have been at older age....Fedor isn't one of them,after 2008. Unless he mysteriously gets leaner again overseas ...well maybe he can get some of it back.