Why is it that if a say anything about Japanese MMA it is automatically assumed I'm talking about PRIDE? Yeah it might have been the biggest japanese org of all time but there is still a plethora of other ones such as DREAM Sengoku HERO'S Pancrase RINGS Shooto DEEP ect.... I tried to make a thread talking about how the majority of top fighters in Japan usually end up under performing or getting exposed when they come to North America and when they do there is always a litany of excuses such as "past there Prime" or "Jetlag". This led to people instantly trying to hang me in the town square because I was attacking PRIDE when not once was it mentioned in my OP. So why do a lot of you equate all JMMA to being PRIDE and why do most JMMA stars ending up under performing when coming to North America?