Opinion President Wants Vaccine Data Released

Will the Data Change Your View of Vaccines

  • Yes

    Votes: 5 14.3%
  • No

    Votes: 6 17.1%
  • Maybe, depends on the data

    Votes: 24 68.6%

  • Total voters
    35
Plenty of Trump maga dont trust the vaccine so not sure who it's pandering to.
ah dayum, looks like hes pandering to his sponsors. didnt read article carefully, assumed he was pandering to his alex jones CT type followers.
 
Not denying but when Trump had operation warp speed the dems had a different take...

Because the vaccine wasn't out yet lol

You're saying that the only difference between folks' skepticism of a vaccine during emergency development and after release is politics?
 
Because the vaccine wasn't out yet lol

You're saying that the only difference between folks' skepticism of a vaccine during emergency development and after release is politics?
No they were polled on it and if Trump would have won would have stuck to their guns imo.
 
I must be to damn old, but I remember when vaccinations actually worked. 1 and done.
You’re mistaken, unfortunately. They sometimes claimed it would be one and done initially, but most vaccines (eg MMR, polio, hep b, dtap) require multiple shots.
 
Because the vaccine wasn't out yet lol
No, it was because it was being developed under Trump. If Trump had won the election, the entire narrative would've flipped, and you would've heard nothing but horror stories about the adverse effect some people were having with them. There would've been vigils for the people who died because of it, and they'd be calling Trump a mass murderer, by unleashing this highly experimental vaccine on people that wasn't properly tested.

Do you seriously doubt that would've happened if Trump was President during that time?
 
No, it was because it was being developed under Trump. If Trump had won the election, the entire narrative would've flipped, and you would've heard nothing but horror stories about the adverse effect some people were having with them. There would've been vigils for the people who died because of it, and they'd be calling Trump a mass murderer, by unleashing this highly experimental vaccine on people that wasn't properly tested.

Do you seriously doubt that would've happened if Trump was President during that time?

Idk, I prefer non hypothetical evidence.

What I do know is that Dems are clearly more pro-vax and were during 2020, prior to the election. Were they skeptical that Trump would fuck it up? No doubt - but I find that most democrats consider Operation Warp Speed Trump's best work and one of the few things they give him generally positive credit for.

If the Dems really villainized Trump in the way that you guys always straw man them to do, then they STILL would have done what you have described. Like, why wouldn't they be hammering how many people Trump killed bc of myocarditis or whatever? No one credits Biden with developing these vaccines, so why wouldn't they shit all over Operation Warp Speed AFTER Biden was elected and push for new Biden vaccines?
 
You’re mistaken, unfortunately. They sometimes claimed it would be one and done initially, but most vaccines (eg MMR, polio, hep b, dtap) require multiple shots.

True, but it's still an immunization, even if it takes more than one shot. You don't need to get them every year like you do the flu vaccine.
 
Wasn’t some of the Covid vaccine data intentionally deleted during Doge? Or was that just rage bait from the Trump admin..
 
I've never been vaccinated twice for anything.
Cool. Below is the childhood schedule in the US:

Hepatitis B (HepB)
  • Birth
  • 1–2 months
  • 6–18 months

Rotavirus (RV)
  • 2 months
  • 4 months
  • 6 months (if 3-dose brand used)

Diphtheria, Tetanus, Pertussis (DTaP)
  • 2 months
  • 4 months
  • 6 months
  • 15–18 months
  • 4–6 years

Haemophilus influenzae type b (Hib)
  • 2 months
  • 4 months
  • 6 months (if 4-dose brand used)
  • 12–15 months (final)

Pneumococcal Conjugate (PCV13/15/20)
  • 2 months
  • 4 months
  • 6 months
  • 12–15 months (final)

Polio (IPV)
  • 2 months
  • 4 months
  • 6–18 months
  • 4–6 years

Influenza (Flu)
  • Every year starting at 6 months

Measles, Mumps, Rubella (MMR)
  • 12–15 months
  • 4–6 years

Varicella (Chickenpox)
  • 12–15 months
  • 4–6 years

Hepatitis A (HepA)
  • 2 doses, 12–23 months (separated by 6 months)

Tetanus, Diphtheria, Pertussis booster (Tdap)
  • 11–12 years
Meningococcal ACWY
  • 11–12 years
  • 16 years (booster)

HPV
  • 2 doses if started at 11–12 years (0 and 6–12 months)
  • 3 doses if starting at 15+ years
 
Cool. Below is the childhood schedule in the US:

Hepatitis B (HepB)
  • Birth
  • 1–2 months
  • 6–18 months

Rotavirus (RV)
  • 2 months
  • 4 months
  • 6 months (if 3-dose brand used)

Diphtheria, Tetanus, Pertussis (DTaP)
  • 2 months
  • 4 months
  • 6 months
  • 15–18 months
  • 4–6 years

Haemophilus influenzae type b (Hib)
  • 2 months
  • 4 months
  • 6 months (if 4-dose brand used)
  • 12–15 months (final)

Pneumococcal Conjugate (PCV13/15/20)
  • 2 months
  • 4 months
  • 6 months
  • 12–15 months (final)

Polio (IPV)
  • 2 months
  • 4 months
  • 6–18 months
  • 4–6 years

Influenza (Flu)
  • Every year starting at 6 months

Measles, Mumps, Rubella (MMR)
  • 12–15 months
  • 4–6 years

Varicella (Chickenpox)
  • 12–15 months
  • 4–6 years

Hepatitis A (HepA)
  • 2 doses, 12–23 months (separated by 6 months)

Tetanus, Diphtheria, Pertussis booster (Tdap)
  • 11–12 years
Meningococcal ACWY
  • 11–12 years
  • 16 years (booster)

HPV
  • 2 doses if started at 11–12 years (0 and 6–12 months)
  • 3 doses if starting at 15+ years
But why would they want to kill us at such random months?
 
I actually agree that the data should be released. This was an extraordinary case and a lot of leeway (and tax money)was given to these companies. I see no reason they should be allowed to keep this data under wraps. We paid for it afterall
 
I actually agree that the data should be released. This was an extraordinary case and a lot of leeway (and tax money)was given to these companies. I see no reason they should be allowed to keep this data under wraps. We paid for it afterall

This should have been a red flag in 2021... Did the FDA actually review any data before approving the MNRA vaccines in the EUA?


Wait what? FDA wants 55 years to process FOIA request over vaccine data​


(Reuters) - Freedom of Information Act requests are rarely speedy, but when a group of scientists asked the federal government to share the data it relied upon in licensing Pfizer’s COVID-19 vaccine, the response went beyond typical bureaucratic foot-dragging.

As in 55 years beyond.

That’s how long the Food & Drug Administration in court papers this week proposes it should be given to review and release the trove of vaccine-related documents responsive to the request. If a federal judge in Texas agrees, plaintiffs Public Health and Medical Professionals for Transparency can expect to see the full record in 2076.
 

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