Futbol Premier League Thread 2023/24 V17: I could eat Edition

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Honestly, outside of the truly elite managers like Klopp, Pep, Carlo etc I think the role of the manager is massively overblown, and even for those elite managers luck and circumstance is a big part of it. Like if Klopp wasn't able to finance Allison and van Dijk with the Coutinho robbery, would they have pushed on? Hell, Klopp even pushed for Julian Brandt and Julian Draxler over Salah at the time.

More and more it's apparent the single most important factor in success is recruitment, imo. The manager might add or take away about 10%.
Tho i disagree with you on all that that the manager importance factor is about 10%, because a manager can make or break almost any player´s career. Even tho any manager, and every club, have in place, or, are supposed to have in place, a whole structure surrounding the team. And every player has their own personality (something which is harder and harder to find, in these Instagram, bullshit, net life we find ourselves in! )
I think we can all agree that ANY PLAYER should be professional, at the minimum. At the minimum.

And, btw, and this is completely off topic : The minimum wage here is 740€. And, every single Man, or Woman, pays, for rent, between 500-800€ for a T1.
Im just saying that, whilst i am talking to you, about football, i hold a beer on my left hand, and a gun on my right. Anyways, back to the topic at hand.

This is a discussion that, imo, could last for days... or more!

But i completely agree with you that the key factor is recruitment. And i would go even further, by adding, investment, proper investment in the youth squads.
 
I don’t even wanna drink today during the game
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Tho i disagree with you on all that that the manager importance factor is about 10%, because a manager can make or break almost any player´s career. Even tho any manager, and every club, have in place, or, are supposed to have in place, a whole structure surrounding the team. And every player has their own personality (something which is harder and harder to find, in these Instagram, bullshit, net life we find ourselves in! )
I think we can all agree that ANY PLAYER should be professional, at the minimum. At the minimum.

And, btw, and this is completely off topic : The minimum wage here is 740€. And, every single Man, or Woman, pays, for rent, between 500-800€ for a T1.
Im just saying that, whilst i am talking to you, about football, i hold a beer on my left hand, and a gun on my right. Anyways, back to the topic at hand.

This is a discussion that, imo, could last for days... or more!

But i completely agree with you that the key factor is recruitment. And i would go even further, by adding, investment, proper investment in the youth squads.

Yeah.

Like if you put Pep in at Everton and Klopp in at West Ham doubt we'd see a radical improvement, certainly in the short term, and no one is saying Dyche and Moyes are special.
 
Yeah.

Like if you put Pep in at Everton and Klopp in at West Ham doubt we'd see a radical improvement, certainly in the short term, and no one is saying Dyche and Moyes are special.
Forget short term United, Suicide Squad Lewis.
Remember when Klopp arrived at Liverpool ?! Fookin Benteke FFS !!! :D
It depends, of course, in many factors.
The projects, the fundings, the recruitment, investment on the youth squads, sales, wage bills... etc.
And, of course, luck, and results.

And i dont want to go into mafias and match fixing... but... BUT ... i mean ...

Here, nowadays, we actually have a sponsored commercial that says, or that tells us, the fans : " Say NO to match fixing."

Watching this i think to myself : How dafook are, we the "powerless" fans gonna fix a match ?!
Are you fookin kidding me?! Or, are you trying to wake me dafook up ?"

True story.
 
@Arqueto can't believe yesterday bud. I don’t even wanna drink today during the game

We were pants bruv :(. Injuries have ruined us this year fam, We can never get any momentum going, as whenever someone comes back from injury, another two go out. We're back to having 6 of our starting 11 out. Had enuff :mad:
 
We were pants bruv :(. Injuries have ruined us this year fam, We can never get any momentum going, as whenever someone comes back from injury, another two go out. We're back to having 6 of our starting 11 out. Had enuff :mad:
Me too fam

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No Rempe or Trouba so Rangers might not give many pp chances to Canes
Canes been good lately and that back to back on the road stuff is huge. Not saying it's a lock but I like the odds
 
Only way English clubs get an extra place in the CL next year is for Arsenal to make at least the semis, I believe.....

As that's probably only going to benefit Villa/Spurs, fuck 'em all. imo.

so as @Rawex said porto and napoli
i am game and fingers crossed
 
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