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Prem Thread post season 2017/18 v4: Back Feeling Green Edition

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Peteyandjia said:
Deets?

Ezekiel? Loop? Baseball bat?

... Force?


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Bow-and-arrow
I was like meh it's tight but his arms will gas
 
Kadafi said:
Baseball chokes are the worst chokes. I always fucking hate those lol
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At least the baseball bat's a clean blood choke, you don't get fucked up.

The worst chokes imo, are any of the throat-crushers: messy guillotines, paper cutters, palm-to-palm RNCs, etc.



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Da Speeit said:
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I was like meh it's tight but his arms will gas
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Ah, I shoulda guessed that one. Simple enough for a whitebelt, but hugely effective.

I have a defense I really like for that one, but I don't want to be 'here's what you should have done' guy so just let me know sometime if you want my 2 cents
 
Peteyandjia said:
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Legit legend. He's the triangle man, as I'm sure you know so you better pick his brain
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Yeah. I’ve known him almost 10 years. My old wrestling and judo coach still is the only black belt he’s awarded. He started me on my quest to better my 1/2 and x guard games.
 
Peteyandjia said:
Ah, I shoulda guessed that one. Simple enough for a whitebelt, but hugely effective.

I have a defense I really like for that one, but I don't want to be 'here's what you should have done' guy so just let me know sometime if you want my 2 cents
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How did you score the WB/Till fight?

Live i had it WB winning but on 2nd watch i had Till wiinning. Fight got a lot of hate. I loved it tho.
 
Rebelfett said:
Yeah. I’ve known him almost 10 years. My old wrestling and judo coach still is the only black belt he’s awarded. He started me on my quest to better my 1/2 and x guard games.
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Oh wow. A stingy belt-giver. I love those. Old school.

Yeah I was a big fan of his run. Shame he didn't get to shine under the big lights when the game blew up, he did all his best work just before that. Still carved his name out though, for the ones who know their shit.
 
Peteyandjia said:
Ah, I shoulda guessed that one. Simple enough for a whitebelt, but hugely effective.

I have a defense I really like for that one, but I don't want to be 'here's what you should have done' guy so just let me know sometime if you want my 2 cents
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I always want your two cents
 
blokeybloke said:
How did you score the WB/Till fight?

Live i had it WB winning but on 2nd watch i had Till wiinning. Fight got a lot of hate. I loved it tho.
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I had all 4 rounds for Wonderboy going into the 5th, and then obviously Till took the last round. Either way I enjoyed the hell out of that match. So much high level shit going on there.
 
Peteyandjia said:
At least the baseball bat's a clean blood choke, you don't get fucked up.

The worst chokes imo, are any of the throat-crushers: messy guillotines, paper cutters, palm-to-palm RNCs, etc.



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True true. With Saulo and Xande we used to do a lot of basic collar chokes. I remember though when Michael Liera Jr and Zak Maxwell got caught in bow and arrow chokes and were out cold!
 
Da Speeit said:
I always want your two cents
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With the bow & arrow choke, there is a moment where you know they are trying to bow & arrow you. When someone gets that sinister collar grab around your neck, and then swings around to reach for your knee, you know what they are doing. That is a big moment, it kind of hangs in the air. In this moment, I do two things which (knock on wood) have kept me out of bow & arrows successfully for years. #1: Wiggle-worm like a motherfucker, violently, down to the floor, moving your body to stay exactly parallel on top of them as much as possible. Butt goes to the floor, sliding down & forward along the floor as dramatically as possible, and the body tries to follow as much as you can, while also following their spin as much as possible, to stay directly in a straight line with them as much as you can. #2: A lot of people when getting bow & arrowed worry about their neck in that moment, how deep the neck grip is sunk in there, trying to chin-tuck after the fact, hand-fight, etc. Forget about the neck. It was their first grip, & it's probably good. Focus on the knee grip. They need that knee grip to finish you, or they should, if you are doing step #1. So if they get a hold of your knee, grab their sleeve and kick your leg out, while also shoving their sleeve away. Don't try to fight the neck grip, just break that knee grip at all costs, so you can stay parallel / right on top of them and sink down / wiggle-worm down to the floor. Related note: don't even 'turn into the choke' or anything, don't worry about turning your head to any side, focus on sinking your body down at all costs, so the *back* of your head will actually leave the chokehold first.

If you do those 2 things, sink down as much as possible & keep him off your knee, then unless you have a real Roger Gracie motherfucker or a specialist on you, most of the time you will break their bow & arrow. Hope that made any sense
 
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