powering out?

Discussion in 'Grappling Technique' started by Brendon Katz, Oct 13, 2005.

  1. Brendon Katz

    Brendon Katz Brown Belt Professional Fighter

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    if i get caught in an armbar or kimura or something i can often just yank my arm out without relying on any technique , just explosiveness. my focus is on mma so no gis for me. should i be doing this or working on technical escapes?
     
  2. lonewolf_454

    lonewolf_454 Blue Belt

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    probably both. Purists will argue that power vs technique is a bad route and, in a way, their right. But you can't argue with the fact that most of the sub escapes you see in pro-mma tend to rely on power to succeed. But if you know you have the power to do it with people in the same weight-class as you, might as well spend your gym time focusing on technique. Then when you fight you'll have the ability to combine both.
     
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    ^^^
    What he said!
     
  4. Chad Hamilton

    Chad Hamilton Amateur Fighter

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    The wrist is very easy for the armbar-er to hold onto due to the MMA gloves.
     
  5. alexgncw

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    in training concentrate on using techniques your strength explosiveness will come in handy when technique fails but you will eventually face better opponents that you may not be able to overpower like that so you should have both
     
  6. wear mma gloves while you train like chad noted.

    also, if you're rolling with a good bjj guy and he sees you're powering out, he'll set up subs all day and let you tire yourself by using power. then he'll hit a good one when you're tired. relying on power gasses most guys fairly quick.
     
  7. LCDforMe

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    True, true.
     
  8. Dr. BadAss

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    Technique all the way, then when you add power, it will be even better. Look at Matt Sera's armbar escape when he fought Karo.
     
  9. my gym always stresses not getting in the situation in the first place. it's very ideal and frustrating to hear when you're newer but it's honestly the best way to go about it. you should be learning submission prevention, not submission escapes. mainly, all the little postures and techniques that dont leave A open when you're working for B.

    the best grapplers are just capitalising on mistakes, not forcing subs. that's how i wrestled. i'd never go for a move until i spotted an opening, unless i had to set something up so i'm not stuck stalling in a dominant position.
     
  10. thecreator

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    Are you sweaty when you power out?
     
  11. Dedicado

    Dedicado Machetero

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    Whatever works best. Just don't count on getting out all the time, focus on denying the set-ups and putting preassure on the guy/ not the other way around.
     
  12. Hockeyfight

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    Do what works but train for both. You may need both to escape eventually.
     
  13. Chad Hamilton

    Chad Hamilton Amateur Fighter

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    Grappling is my weak point. I've found that explosion is the only way for me to combat a grapplers superior skills.
    I have no choice but to attempt to power out on occassion when I feel that he'll get the best of me on the ground.
    Elbowing or just pounding the liver works well if you can't get outta guard.
     
  14. Brendon Katz

    Brendon Katz Brown Belt Professional Fighter

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    yeh. i always sweat like a blind lesbian in a fish factory though.

    good point about the mma gloves , ill give that a shot.
     
  15. swearier than a bus load of fat women off to see Ricky Martin?
     
  16. Brendon Katz

    Brendon Katz Brown Belt Professional Fighter

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    sweatier than a pornstar after a barnyard scene!
     

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