popped rib twice in bjj

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During boxing training i had already weakened my ribs by getting hit by a few good bodyshots. I let it rest for one week and just did rolling. A night ago while rolling I popped the lower left rib part twice and my master popped it back in. It has been a solid week of nothing. There is a solid bump that looks like an out of place bone protruding on my left lower rib cage. I can't bend down to tie my show lace without it hurting or do a bodyweight squat without the ribs compressing and pain shooting through... getting out of bed also hurts and laughing hard. I read up somewhere that i tore a intercostal muscle or ligament?

so how long did it take you guys to heal completely/ or when you went on the mat again?
did you feel it when someone is on mount some months later?
did you use any type of brace to get back into rolling?
did the injury reoccur and how (so i can avoid this)?
did the protrusion/bump go away?

ive been icing and using flexall to rub on the soreness. The pain is slowly getting better but i can tell that part is very unstable.......

ps, yes first thing i did was go to the doctors and get an xray, no fractures .
 
Hey Champ, I did a similar thing earlier this year, busted the cartilage in the lower left. Hurt for days to sneeze, cough, laugh etc just like yourself. I didn't have anything protruding though.
I ended up going to a pyhisio who said I needed to treat the damaged cartilage like a broken bone: 4-6 weeks of nothing to aggravate the ribs. Thats how long it takes to heal up properly.
I took his advice and I did absolutely nothing (no swimming, no running, definitely no bjj/combat sports) for 4 weeks then started doing easy squats and deadlifts. At this point i could still feel the injury and weakness in the ribs.
After 6 weeks went back into bjj and the ribs are holding up pretty well after 3 months since the injury. I can still feel it though sometimes when in bottom position. Not a pain but just a feeling or sense of weakness.

Just be patient, don't aggravate the ribs and they'll heal with time. It sucks but there isn't much else that can be done... (I don't think, maybe others have better advice?)
Maybe get a second opinion with a physio or osteopath but yea I'm sure they'd say a similar thing...
 
Hey Champ, I did a similar thing earlier this year, busted the cartilage in the lower left. Hurt for days to sneeze, cough, laugh etc just like yourself. I didn't have anything protruding though.
I ended up going to a pyhisio who said I needed to treat the damaged cartilage like a broken bone: 4-6 weeks of nothing to aggravate the ribs. Thats how long it takes to heal up properly.
I took his advice and I did absolutely nothing (no swimming, no running, definitely no bjj/combat sports) for 4 weeks then started doing easy squats and deadlifts. At this point i could still feel the injury and weakness in the ribs.
After 6 weeks went back into bjj and the ribs are holding up pretty well after 3 months since the injury. I can still feel it though sometimes when in bottom position. Not a pain but just a feeling or sense of weakness.

Just be patient, don't aggravate the ribs and they'll heal with time. It sucks but there isn't much else that can be done... (I don't think, maybe others have better advice?)
Maybe get a second opinion with a physio or osteopath but yea I'm sure they'd say a similar thing...

thanks a lot champ! yeah at this point i probably look into some kind of strengthening program for the intercostals slowly building up....the most im worried about is this bulging thing .....
 
I did mine a few months back. Wasn't all that painful at the time but got so bad during the drive home, due to the pressure of the car seat, that I barely made it. I was close to blacking out, driving down a tunnel of pain. LOL

A few days of real agony and inability to get in and out of bed etc and then weeks of discomfort. Painkillers, NSAIDs and rest was all that worked. After a month, when it only hurt when being pressed I started training again but only rolled against much smaller guys and even then submitted when it was pressured. Now it's completely better.

I'm skeptical as to whether you can really train your intercostal muscles to a degree that would offer protection.
 
I popped a rib a couple of years ago while rolling. I didn't feel any pain at the time, but when I woke up the next morning I couldn't even roll out of bed. It hurt like hell even just to laugh. It took about 4-6 weeks of doing nothing to heal. I haven't had any problems since then.
 
Happened to me last weekend at a tourny. Went for a KOTD sweep and pop. Still sore but not too bad, hoping to be back on the mats in one more week.
 
I've popped ribs on a couple of occasions. I'm pretty sure one is still out, you can see it and if I put weight on it for any amount of time its pretty uncomfortable. Reminds me, I gotta talk to the DR about that.

They take a while to heal.
 
thanks for the response sherdoggers, sucks to be out of training and just watching others roll.
 
hmm sounds like I have the same problem. Supposedly it's the cartilage in the middle of my chest and it may or may not heal. Something like that.
 
6 weeks minimum. Do nothing for that time.

8 weeks to be safe. Take it easy - do not roll for another week. Then only with guys your size or smaller - no knee on belly.
 
Yep - a full six weeks of rest. Then light rolling for another month.
 
The cartliage in your ribs has a very poor blood supply, which is why they are notorious for prolonged healing. Use heat not ice to try and encourage more blood flow to the area. Massaging is good. I popped my rib just over a week ago and competed in a tournament today fine, just from regularly massaging it.
 
i guess the general consensus is 6 weeks to 8weeks, ill be sure to massage it with some flexall!
 
I did mine September 2012 preparing for a comp. I wasn't getting a lot of help when it came to local doctors/specialists etc. Best info was from this forum.

Every rib cartilage injury is different both in location and extent of the injury. Th best advice I got is take the time to heal. 8 weeks off is a very short time in the journey that is BJJ. Listen to your own body. For me it was 4 weeks completely off BJJ and strength and conditioning. Then 2 weeks of BJJ with no grappling, then 2 weeks BJJ with light grappling (small guys) but tell partners about the injury and if you get an uncomfortable position due to the injury (e.g. Stacked). Tap and start again. It was 8 weeks before full BJJ and S & C.

8 months later I have a calcified lump where the injury about the size of a golf ball. Still hurts on after intense grappling ( pre comp or with heavy guys) and I pull up sore after strength training sometimes. Have really tried to strengthen around the area and touch wood no further injuries ATM.

From what others on here told me it is a recurring and common injury in BJJ. But you can guard against it to some degree.

Here the links to the other threads which may help......
http://www.sherdog.net/forums/f12/gr...uries-2187829/

http://forums.sherdog.com/forums/f12/popped-rib-injury-how-long-did-you-take-recover-2201341/

First time I have done that from phone. Hope the links worked.
 
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I only half-read the thread so far, but I've "popped" ribs a few times. Most of the time it only hurt for a day or two but every time I go to the chiropractor (about once every 6 months) I have multiple ribs out of place.

But one time, about 2.5 years ago, I injured the intercostal cartilage. My instructor had me in a body triangle and squeezed right as I postured. Oh sweet jesus it hurt and took maybe a month before I could twist my torso without significant pain. Getting in and out of my car was the worst pain of all. Now I don't have any real issues with it, except maybe my aforementioned tendency to have ribs out of place.
 
this is what exactly happened to me, for all those that search a pop rib thread heres some expert advice i found from another thread:

Question
Hello,
A few weeks back I sustained an injury to my bottom left rib. Basically I was doing some jujitsu (wrestling type movement)when my opponent was holding my upper body and I tried to escape moving in the opposite direction. Result was a very sharp pain on my left side. It was very painful..so much I had real trouble getting up. Anyways most of the guys there suggested it was a muscle tear between the bones as it was not painful to touch...yet hurt to move..breathe..laugh..etc. It was swollen a bit..but after a few days the pain was manageable. I started boxing again but laid off the hard core ground work..ie wrestling. So after a few weeks the pain is very slight..only if I lie on that side..or do anything requiring super strength.
But..I have a lump sticking out at the base of my rib at the bottom right at the front. It would appear as if my rib has moved an inch or so. If i feel the difference between both sides..it is very noticeable. My question to you sir...and thanks for bearing with the long read..
Can I get this reset? Could it heal itself? Or am I stuck with an odd shaped rib now? Any recommendations are gratefully accepted.
With thanks..

Sore Rib in Canada

Answer
Dear Kevin,

Sounds like you have a derangement of the cartilage which attaches the rib to the sternum. This is not a serious injury, but may not heal fully due to the type of tissue. I also agree that it is likely that you have a strain/sprain of the surrounding muscle and fascial structures. in addition, It is not likely that your rib has actually moved an inch, soft tissue swelling is probably most of the visual problem, with a small movement of the rib head. The only true way to check the actual derangement would be with a radiographic assessment.

Cartilagenous tissue is notoriously slow to heal due to the deficient blood supply, and is prone to degeneration. The best way to promote proper healing is to make sure that the ribhead approximates as close as possible the normal anatomical position to allow the cartilage to form a proper scar. A chiropractic physician can easily evaluate this and utilize manipulation to reposition the rib head if needed, and you may need the rib to be manipulated in the back as well as the chest due to the connections.

In addition, there are some nutritional concerns that will help the initial healing process as follows:

Glucosamine/Chondroitin/MSM: Glucosamine is thought to promote the formation and repair of cartilage. Glucosamine hydrocloride is the form that is best absorbed by the body, but glucosamine sulfate is utilized more appropriately for repair. Chondroitin sulfate promotes water retention and elasticity in cartilage and inhibits enzymes that break down cartilage. MSM is also important in cartilaginous repair. You need to consume a minimum of 1500 mg of Chondroitin and Glucosamine, as well as 750mg of MSM per day after injury. A minimum dosage period would be for two months.

Vitamin-C: and additional anti-oxidants have also been shown to speed the healing process. Whole food complexes of vitamin c are preferred over synthetic forms. Ascorbic acid is a poor form. Vitamin C is a major constituent concerning collagen repair.

Omega-3 Fatty Acids: act as anti-inflammatory agents, making them beneficial for patients with any inflammatory condition. There are three major types of omega 3 fatty acids that are ingested in foods and used by the body: alpha-linolenic acid (ALA)-18 carbons, eicosapentaenoic acid (EPA)-20 carbons, and docosahexaenoic acid (DHA)-22 carbons. Once eaten, the body converts ALA to EPA and DHA, the two types of omega-3 fatty acids more readily used by the body. Unfortunately, the conversion is many times incomplete or slow in humans, therefore, EPA and DHA supplements are most effective. Extensive research indicates that omega-3 fatty acids reduce inflammation and help prevent certain chronic diseases such as heart disease and arthritis. Typical dosage after injury is 4000 to 6000 mg daily for 3 months. Then reduce to a maintenance dose of 3000 to 4000 mg daily. In addition the supplement should be molecularly distilled, pharmaceutical grade, and free of toxins.

Kevin, these types of injuries can be a nagging pain in the *** due to the long healing times and the recurrence of injury, so make sure that you don't continually aggravate it...well with your level of physical activity, just do your best.

Respectfully,
Dr. J. Shawn Leatherman
www.suncoasthealthcare.net
 
I only half-read the thread so far, but I've "popped" ribs a few times. Most of the time it only hurt for a day or two but every time I go to the chiropractor (about once every 6 months) I have multiple ribs out of place.

But one time, about 2.5 years ago, I injured the intercostal cartilage. My instructor had me in a body triangle and squeezed right as I postured. Oh sweet jesus it hurt and took maybe a month before I could twist my torso without significant pain. Getting in and out of my car was the worst pain of all. Now I don't have any real issues with it, except maybe my aforementioned tendency to have ribs out of place.


This sounds identical to my situation, down to rolling with my instructor and he body triangled me from the back. I don't remember if that was the first or 2nd time I'd popped my ribs but it was the worst. Strange how similar.
 
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