Poor DDP

What I said relates to how people likely view him. I never once gave stated that DDP isn't African.

Yeah, and like I said, racism is always about how others view someone. Like I said, KKK viewed Africans as not Americans. I am an ethnic minority myself and the equivalent of what people like Adesanya say about DDP is some white person telling me to go back to where I came from when I was born and raised in Canada. Dricus did not choose his Dutch ancestors who were a part of the apartheid. Adesanya literally read about apartheid minutes before and decided to blame it all on Dricus (by his own admission) in his drunken tirade.

Dricus did not choose to be born in Africa. He was born there and what was in control was, whether he stayed there or not. He did and still does. That is what sets him apart where people like Ngannou. Usman and Adesanya left Africa as soon as they had a way out of there.
 
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Yeah, and like I said, racism is always about how others view someone. Like I said, KKK viewed Africans as not Americans. I am an ethnic minority myself and the equivalent of what people like Adesanya say about DDP is some white person telling me to go back to where I came from when I was born and raised in Canada. Dricus did not choose his Dutch ancestors who were a part of the apartheid. Adesanya literally read about apartheid minutes before and decided to blame it all on Dricus (by his own admission) in his drunken tirade.

Dricus did not choose to be born in Africa. He was born there and what was in control was, whether he stayed there or not. He did and still does. That is what sets him apart where people like Ngannou. Usman and Adesanya left Africa as soon as they had a way out of there.


Yeah, and like I said, racism is always about how others view someone. Like I said, KKK viewed Africans as not Americans. I am an ethnic minority myself and the equivalent of what people like Adesanya say about DDP is some white person telling me to go back to where I came from when I was born and raised in Canada. Dricus did not choose his Dutch ancestors who were a part of the apartheid. Adesanya literally read about apartheid minutes before and decided to blame it all on Dricus (by his own admission) in his drunken tirade.

Dricus did not choose to be born in Africa. He was born there and what was in control was, whether he stayed there or not. He did and still does. That is what sets him apart where people like Ngannou. Usman and Adesanya left Africa as soon as they had a way out of there.

DDP didn't control if he stayed in Africa or not. When a family chooses to immigrate do you think it's the young children's choice? Was it Usmans and izzys choice to immigrate ? No. So quit acting like they turned their back on Africa and "that's what sets him apart." What sets Izzy, Francis and Usman apart from DDP is they have given back to Africa way more than DDP has and they don't rip other African fighters. They're about celebrating Africans and uplifting other Africans. DDP called the first 3 African champions not real Africans. That's not what a guy that represents Africa and is proud to be African does.

The moment ngannou and Usman were able to give back and make a difference to Africa they did. What has DDP ever done for Africa ? Like you said DDP was born in Africa and it wasn't his choice. You're acting like he's some true African because he stayed there when the reason hes there has little to do with his choice and decisions.

And it's not like you said. You said I said something I didn't. Also, the context I stated the comment doesn't imply that racism would be the main reason he wouldnt be viewed as African.
 
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DDP didn't control if he stayed in Africa or not. When a family chooses to immigrate do you think it's the young children's choice? Was it Usmans and izzys choice to immigrate ? No. So quit acting like they turned their back on Africa and "that's what sets him apart." What sets Izzy, Francis and Usman apart from DDP is they have given back to Africa way more than DDP has and they don't rip other African fighters. They're about celebrating Africans and uplifting other Africans. DDP called the first 3 African champions not real Africans. That's not what a guy that represents Africa and is proud to be African does.

The moment ngannou and Usman were able to give back and make a difference to Africa they did. What has DDP ever done for Africa ? Like you said DDP was born in Africa and it wasn't his choice. You're acting like he's some true African because he stayed there when the reason hes there has little to do with his choice and decisions.

And it's not like you said. You said I said something I didn't. Also, the context I stated the comment doesn't imply that racism would be the main reason he wouldnt be viewed as African.


Again, DDP did not race bait anyone. He is the victim of race baiting by Adesanya so stop trying to make it sound like DDP was saying anything about Adesanya. Adesanya was triggered by the fact that DDP said he would be the first real African champion because he was born, raised and still chooses to live in Africa. He breathes African air and also lives with the training limitations in Africa vs the training facilities other UFC MMA fighters in US have the luxury of enjoying that he does not.

The whole thing is messed up. You know nothing about DDP and don't assume he does not give back more than Adesanya or Usman. You are in no position to judge someone and who does more and who does less. Just because Adesanya, Usman and Ngannous like to parade it in front of the world, does not mean DDP does less because he does not brag. Also, Usman had completely distanced himself from Africa for a long time calling himself 'Marty from Nebraska'. Adesanya also is a completely hypocrite where he called himself Chinese when he was fighting in China. Also, he said home is where the heart is when he was in China. He had absolutely zero right to race bait DDP.

Some people don't showboat all over the world what they do. From what I have heard, Dricus does A LOT for the youth in terms of time and donations, but he chooses to keep it a secret. Also, he is not wealthy like these people who have earned big bucks in MMA with UFC. I can relate to that since I donate a lot of money, but no one knows how much I donate because I choose not to brag about everything I do.

I stand by my comment and the whole point I have been trying to make, Adesanya had absolutely ZERO right to race bait DDP. That was racist and that was completely wrong. Dricus was classy enough not to make it a big deal and smiled when he was race baiting him (just like he refused to press charges against Strickland when he attacked and hit him behind the head). You really need to stop making excuses for what Adesanya said as racist comments like 'I will show you where you from' and 'do a 26 (sic) and me to see where you are from'. It was the main reason why everyone was cheering for Strickland in Australia. I have said it many times, that is the language KKK used against African Americans in the US. Adesanya gets away with it because he has a special privilege here.
 
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What’s crazy is Africa is a huge chunk of land that stretches far, with a lot of different types and shades of African people. Some people can’t seem to recognize that

Africa has the most genetic diversity of any continent even when DNA from European colonizers, South Asian Immigrants, and middle easterners that migrated along with the spread of Islam are all discounted.
 
Here's the thing:

Dricus is white, but claims to be African. He may be South African -- a nationality -- but he's not African. He's white/European.

To everyone else in the world, African and black are synonymous. But for some stupid, self-defeating reason, white people continue to believe that civic nationalism is meaningful. It isn't. And everyone except white people understands this.
You do understand that 'mericans are the only ones that call black ppl "african-americans", right? There's no "african-brazilians" or "african-irish".
Civic nationalism doesnt mean much, but it's more meaningful than race. As a brazilian, i am more culturally aligned to a black brazilian than to a white french.
 
Usman and Izzy are just stealing African cred and it works with race simps. For example, Usman was "Marty" during his college wrestling days and totally Americanized. He didn't promote Africa at all whereas DDP has been 100% South African all the way along.
I know we are on the internet having fun and voicing our opinions which we all are allowed to have, but
i would tread real light when it comes to matters like this.

oh and btw usman dont have to promote africa, neither does francis, izzy, congo, etc etc. when you are
authentic you dont have to do all that extra stuff.

You certainly have a double digit IQ. Obviously they are "real Africans" in that they were born in African countries and are citizens. But in every amateur and professional sport that Ngannou, Adesanya, and Usman have ever competed in, they have never represented their home country since they lived and trained elsewhere at the time.

Anyone can choose their own nickname, so how is there any truth in that? Usman has another nickname: Marty. He walks out with a flag, ok great. That's his choice, but it has nothing to do with how sports work.


Yeah, this guy is extremely racist. DDP isn't African? Why not? He's the only one who didn't abandon his home country. Also I believe he has walked out with a South African flag too, since that means so much to this imbecile.
pick up a history book study for a few years and then comeback to see how childish you sound.

at the end of they day DDP will never have any credentials to say what is and isnt african . him running his mouth
in itself is an offense. and he better chill out cause i know something....the last thing ddp wants to do is
rock the boat.


For people who literate about history of human rights know that is the exact type of language KKK used to use against black people. They claimed immigrants ancestors even if you are born, raised and lived in US, still make you foreigner. It was also the basis of racial segregation. Being of ethnic minority myself and living in Canada, it is the same as someone telling me to go back where you came from despite being born here.

Unfortunately, people like Adesanya are allowed to race bait like this without any repercussions because they are able to use apartheid in South Africa to slander someone who had nothing to do with it and was not born in a country by choice mired in history of apartheid. Adesanya makes it sound like he needs to pay for the sins of his white ancestors
its the attempt for me....
but anyway
I really do wish someone would dare have the balls to implement a repercussion for adesanaya , oh boy please do.
please do it so it blows up into a bigger story
 
Again, DDP did not race bait anyone. He is the victim of race baiting by Adesanya so stop trying to make it sound like DDP was saying anything about Adesanya. Adesanya was triggered by the fact that DDP said he would be the first real African champion because he was born, raised and still chooses to live in Africa. He breathes African air and also lives with the training limitations in Africa vs the training facilities other UFC MMA fighters in US have the luxury of enjoying that he does not.

The whole thing is messed up. You know nothing about DDP and don't assume he does not give back more than Adesanya or Usman. You are in no position to judge someone and who does more and who does less. Just because Adesanya, Usman and Ngannous like to parade it in front of the world, does not mean DDP does less because he does not brag. Also, Usman had completely distanced himself from Africa for a long time calling himself 'Marty from Nebraska'. Adesanya also is a completely hypocrite where he called himself Chinese when he was fighting in China. Also, he said home is where the heart is when he was in China. He had absolutely zero right to race bait DDP.

Some people don't showboat all over the world what they do. From what I have heard, Dricus does A LOT for the youth in terms of time and donations, but he chooses to keep it a secret. Also, he is not wealthy like these people who have earned big bucks in MMA with UFC. I can relate to that since I donate a lot of money, but no one knows how much I donate because I choose not to brag about everything I do.

I stand by my comment and the whole point I have been trying to make, Adesanya had absolutely ZERO right to race bait DDP. That was racist and that was completely wrong. Dricus was classy enough not to make it a big deal and smiled when he was race baiting him (just like he refused to press charges against Strickland when he attacked and hit him behind the head). You really need to stop making excuses for what Adesanya said as racist comments like 'I will show you where you from' and 'do a 26 (sic) and me to see where you are from'. It was the main reason why everyone was cheering for Strickland in Australia. I have said it many times, that is the language KKK used against African Americans in the US. Adesanya gets away with it because he has a special privilege here.
DDP lives better than 99 percent of Africans, Cameroon has no MMS gyms at all. Hatfield Pretoria is a nice white neighborhood no adversity. DDP can only train on Africa cause he is privileged to do so, he doesn't have to work in a salt line or abject poverty.

Not that you would care of course, cause to you DDP could have been born Liberia and he still would train there
 
Anyone can choose their own nickname, so how is there any truth in that? Usman has another nickname: Marty. He walks out with a flag, ok great. That's his choice, but it has nothing to do with how sports works

That's not how sports works? The very sport they compete in refers to them as African champions. Also what I pointed out is exactly how representation works.
 
Again, DDP did not race bait anyone. He is the victim of race baiting by Adesanya so stop trying to make it sound like DDP was saying anything about Adesanya. Adesanya was triggered by the fact that DDP said he would be the first real African champion because he was born, raised and still chooses to live in Africa. He breathes African air and also lives with the training limitations in Africa vs the training facilities other UFC MMA fighters in US have the luxury of enjoying that he does not.

The whole thing is messed up. You know nothing about DDP and don't assume he does not give back more than Adesanya or Usman. You are in no position to judge someone and who does more and who does less. Just because Adesanya, Usman and Ngannous like to parade it in front of the world, does not mean DDP does less because he does not brag. Also, Usman had completely distanced himself from Africa for a long time calling himself 'Marty from Nebraska'. Adesanya also is a completely hypocrite where he called himself Chinese when he was fighting in China. Also, he said home is where the heart is when he was in China. He had absolutely zero right to race bait DDP.

Some people don't showboat all over the world what they do. From what I have heard, Dricus does A LOT for the youth in terms of time and donations, but he chooses to keep it a secret. Also, he is not wealthy like these people who have earned big bucks in MMA with UFC. I can relate to that since I donate a lot of money, but no one knows how much I donate because I choose not to brag about everything I do.

I stand by my comment and the whole point I have been trying to make, Adesanya had absolutely ZERO right to race bait DDP. That was racist and that was completely wrong. Dricus was classy enough not to make it a big deal and smiled when he was race baiting him (just like he refused to press charges against Strickland when he attacked and hit him behind the head). You really need to stop making excuses for what Adesanya said as racist comments like 'I will show you where you from' and 'do a 26 (sic) and me to see where you are from'. It was the main reason why everyone was cheering for Strickland in Australia. I have said it many times, that is the language KKK used against African Americans in the US. Adesanya gets away with it because he has a special privilege here.

Oh so now DDP, who started the whole thing is the victim. What DDP said is wrong, just because you train and grew up somewhere doesn't make you a real african and others fake. A real African is someone who is born in Africa and shows allegiances to Africa. Id argue that just being born in Africa jdoesn't alone make someone a true African. A true African is shown in what they do for Africa and how they give back. DDP insults other African fighters and theres no evidence of anything he's ever done to give back to africa and make a difference. He's more of a fake African than they are.



Kamaru Usman never called himself Marty from Nebraska. That's something that sherdoggers, Colby and other racists like yourself refer to him as.

Ngannou, Izzy and Usman don't brag about giving back to Africa. It's not like they're on twitter and social media saying "hey I did this and that for Africa, I'm such a great person because of it" All three guys have youtube channels that show videos of their lives and things they do. Those videos show their journey back and how they give back to where they're from because it's an important part of the story and is inspiring.

Also some things are picked up by news and is general knowledge. Kamaru Usman having an MMA promotion out of Africa is general knowledge. Francis running an MMA gym for youth and building facilities is general knowledge.

Youre playing mental gymnastics. Since you can't even name a single thing that DDP does to give back to Africa , you spin it that "some people don't showboat about what they've done." But then the funny part is you turn around and say that you hear that he's donated a lot of money. If he's done things for Africa, it would be general knowledge and something you can reference. No one knows how much you supposedly donate (a lie like you being an ethnic minority) because no one knows you and you're nobody. DDP is a mainstream figure.

It's interesting that you want to cry about what adesanya said about DDP but you're totally fine with what DDP said about three men that represent the continent and have done a lot to promote and give back. It's obvious why.
 
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Oh so now DDP, who started the whole thing is the victim. What DDP said is wrong, just because you train and grew up somewhere doesn't make you a real african and others fake. A real African is someone who is born in Africa and shows allegiances to Africa. Id argue that just being born in Africa jdoesn't alone make someone a true African. A true African is shown in what they do for Africa and how they give back. DDP insults other African fighters and theres no evidence of anything he's ever done to give back to africa and make a difference. He's more of a fake African than they are.

Yes, it does. Africa has huge limitations like I said as far as resource constraints go. It is extremely honorable for one to choose to deal with those limitations on a daily basis and have the overhead of it affecting them out of patriotic love for not wanting to leave the country as Dricus can move wherever he wants to but chooses not to out of love for his country. People leave Africa because they want all of the resources and tools available to them. I know so many South Africans who move out of SA because of how bad it is over there. Adesanya, Usman and Ngannou all train in US or in NZ because they have all of those resources available to them. Dricus chooses to stay in SA because he is loyal to his country and chooses to deal with the limitations of electricity, water etc. that one has to deal with. You can argue till you are blue, but that simply cannot be ignored as a patriotic act on Dricus' behalf.



Kamaru Usman never called himself Marty from Nebraska. That's something that sherdoggers, Colby and other racists like yourself refer to him as.

Yes, indeed he did. When he was in wrestling team, he used to refer to himself as Marty from Nebraska. You again are so biased against Dricus that you would do anything to throw doubts. Want proof? So did Adesanya calling himself Chinese when he was fighting out of China.

Ngannou, Izzy and Usman don't brag about giving back to Africa. It's not like they're on twitter and social media saying "hey I did this and that for Africa, I'm such a great person because of it" All three guys have youtube channels that show videos of their lives and things they do. Those videos show their journey back and how they give back to where they're from because it's an important part of the story and is inspiring.

Yes, they do. That is how you know through the videos they release of them visiting Africa with lots of people around etc. If they did it quietly and without showboating, majority of the people would not know. Since you are biased, you are going to skew everything in favor of Adesanya, Usman and Ngannou to belittle DDP.

Also, just because you see optics of engagement does not mean you know how much ACTUAL involvement is. For example, you either don't know or you chose to ignore it thinking I would not know that Ngannou was expelled from his Cameroonian MMA gym because of lack of involvement where they said, he just used it for optics while rarely ever actually engaging or supporting the cause.


Also some things are picked up by news and is general knowledge. Kamaru Usman having an MMA promotion out of Africa is general knowledge. Francis running an MMA gym for youth and building facilities is general knowledge.

The only evidence I found was ONE face off where he appeared next to the fighters. How much money does he spend? How many months does he spend in Africa? It is simply inconclusive argument until I know all of the details beyond the optics of it as to how much substance there is behind it. Why don't you post evidence of these things before you start talking about unicorns and rainbows. By the same token, I think I also should believe Trudeau foundation here in Canada does a lot for the poor in the third world country simply because it says so?


Youre playing mental gymnastics. Since you can't even name a single thing that DDP does to give back to Africa , you spin it that "some people don't showboat about what they've done." But then the funny part is you turn around and say that you hear that he's donated a lot of money. If he's done things for Africa, it would be general knowledge and something you can reference. No one knows how much you supposedly donate (a lie like you being an ethnic minority) because no one knows you and you're nobody. DDP is a mainstream figure.

Stick to the point. I was only countering you. Your statement of Dricus not being viewed as African, is discriminatory and is also unacceptable. Dricus said nothing racist. He only highlighted the point because he is the real African based on him staying loyal and fighting for his country rather than leaving it for greener pastures. Regardless of how much Dricus does for others in Africa, you have no right whatsoever to use KKK like language and claim that Dricus is not viewed as African inside Africa. I personally donate a lot of money, but no one outside of my home knows anything about it. Your argument is flawed since you cannot conclusively with evidence show me who does less or who does more for Africa based on the showboating videos you have seen of Usman or Adesanya or Ngannou. That is a nonsense argument.


It's interesting that you want to cry about what adesanya said about DDP but you're totally fine with what DDP said about three men that represent the continent and have done a lot to promote and give back. It's obvious why.

You are a fool. What did Dricus say? He just said he will be the first real African champion who was born, raised and still trains out of Africa. We breathe African air and we wake up in Africa every day. That is all 100% fact and true what he said. There is nothing racist or there is nothing factually incorrect about it. Yes, I do believe him living and training in Africa, makes him represent Africa better 100% I

What Adesanya said, was completely racist claiming Dricus has no right to call himself African implying he is an outsider due to his Dutch heritage.

Dricus is actually used to it. Back years ago, Bahati promoted the fight saying he was the 'King of South Africa' while Dricus was not African. That is, Bahati was a black Londoner while Dricus was fighting out of South Africa. It got so heated that Bahati slapped Dricus in the face during their face off. The crowd rallied behind Dricus in South Africa and Dricus choked Bahati out in less than 1 minute. Parallels with Adesanya are, Adesanya said the same thing about Dricus and all of Australian crowd rallied behind Strickland because of that despite AUS/NZ crowd usually supporting their own fighters.

What Dricus said, was a completely different topic where he simply is highlighting the fact that living and staying in Africa means something as a champion. Dricus only called himself the real African champion based on those criteria. He made no judgmental comments about others. Two completely different undertones and different points of acknowledgement. There is a sacrifice required for someone not want to leave his/her native country for greener pastures with a lot of potential not available in the home country. You could argue till you are blue, but I simply won't ignore that. Your limitation is, your ability to understand the difference between someone taking pride in living and breathing African air while the other saying, hey you have no right to call yourself Africa and you come from somewhere else. They are two completely different things. Adesanya used the KKK language by saying 'I will show you where you are from' and 'you should do a 26 (sic) and me to see where you are from'. That is the same KKK calling Muhammad Ali an African despite him being born and raised in the US. You are wasting my time since I have repeated the difference to you like a dozen of times, but your confirmation bias continues to try to throw them toegther.

For example, I live and was raised in Canada. When I go back to my home country, lots of people always say you are Canadian and that they choose to live and deal with the limitations of things that were available to me that helped me succeed that are not available in an Asian country. I don't get offended and as a matter of fact, I appreciate they choose to live in the country despite having so many limitations to deal with, which I did not/do not have to. Life is much harder over there where things us in the first world taking for granted, are scarcely available over there and result in a struggle that is foreign to us.
 
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You're still not getting it, but also I didn't directly quote DDP so you might want to go review what DDP actually said. Not true Africans means something completely different than not true African UFC champions. DDP only ever commented on the latter.

How does Usman represent Africa more than DDP? Usman has lived most of his life in the US. Adesanya has lived most of his life in New Zealand. Not one of those 3 fighters ever legitimately represented an African country in MMA. You represent the country you live and train in, it's that simple. DDP has only ever lived and trained in South Africa. He would be the first African UFC champion should he win the belt - not the first African BORN champion, but the first champion to be representing an African country. This is a simple fact that eludes you due to racial tension and being overly emotional about this.

Kamaru Usman's wrestling career. How come he wasn't representing Nigeria?

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I’d always see the English flag next to Overeems name In the UFC. I’m assuming he was born there but I don’t think he ever considered himself English and neither did anyone else.
 
Here's the thing:

You can't claim that all colors belong to a civic nationality aka American or Canadian but then draw a different distinction when it's a white guy born and raised in Africa. Your line of thinking is exactly what divides nations, claiming people don't belong because of their skin color. Imagine people saying a black American isn't a real American. Sounds pretty racist to me.

You completely misunderstood what I said, or misrepresented it.

African isn't a nationality, like American or Canadian. South African is. And Dricus is South African. But when someone speaks of being African, nobody in the world thinks "white guy from South Africa." They think black dude. Of course you know that I'm right, because you specified "black American," to hide your political bias. If you had said "African-American," the game would be given away. Sure, any American citizen is an American. And? America is nothing but an economic zone for international finance.

Of course I do not believe in globalism -- some morass of identities, boiled together into some beige soup of Marvel comic movies and pop music. Why would I want that?

Dricus is white/European and he's South African. He's not African. Adesanya is black, is African, and is a New Zealander. He's not white.
 
I think the biggest issue is him claiming izzy, francis and usman aren't real africans. A white dude whos family was likely part of apartheid saying that is pathetic.

I'm not going to pretend like South Africa has become a good place to live post-apartheid or ignore that white people are regularly targeted with violence and theft in South Africa today.

But, right. Ngannou, Adesanya, and Usman are Africans. They're black. I don't know all three of their citizenship status, but I do believe Adesanya is a citizen of New Zealand. So he's black and a New Zealander. Dricus is white, and a South African. He's not African.
 
What the hell, so you say he isnt african... if he was born there (SA) he is... and color of skin doesnt matter... lol at morons like you.

South African is a national identity. African speaks to the racial and ethnic categories native to the content of Africa. Dricus is white/European and a South African. He's not African/black.
 
So by your logic Jon Jones is not American?

Yoel Romero is not Cuban?

Anderson not Brazilian?

I think you've failed the logic.

Anderson Silva is black and Brazilian. I think Yoel Romero may be mixed (I forget), and Cuban. Jon Jones is black and American.

Dricus is white and South African. He is not black/African.
 
You do understand that 'mericans are the only ones that call black ppl "african-americans", right? There's no "african-brazilians" or "african-irish".
Civic nationalism doesnt mean much, but it's more meaningful than race. As a brazilian, i am more culturally aligned to a black brazilian than to a white french.

You're lying to yourself or to us, if you're pretending that racial and ethnic lines don't exist in Brazil or Ireland. And I'd be curious if you feel more culturally aligned with a white Brazilian or a black Parisian.
 
He only usually irritates closeted racists or wanna be purists who claim "his style lacks skill". In reality he would have finished Izzy when Strickland fought him and shut all the haters up emphatically
 
I think DDP has a pretty severe case of punchable face syndrome so you can't really blame people for punching it, it is pretty much out of their control.
Everyone has a punchable face when you are a pro fighter.
 
You're lying to yourself or to us, if you're pretending that racial and ethnic lines don't exist in Brazil or Ireland. And I'd be curious if you feel more culturally aligned with a white Brazilian or a black Parisian.
Im not saying there's no ethnic lines here or there. Im saying they're not as strong that denies, for example, mixed marriages, which im the result of. All im saying is, at the end of the day, it's culture that bonds us together, and "nationalism" is one of em.
Of course there are others. Id prolly be more aligned to a Black parisian than a deeply religious muslim Brazilian, for instance. Different cultures.
 
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