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Poking eyes with extended middle joint instead of fingers, why doesn’t this happen? It could be a great move.

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There are a lot of extended fingers in the face but it’s more rare that you ever get a knuckle punched into the eye.

Why isn’t there a strategy to just fling out an extended knuckle/middle joint ( that joint in the middle of the finger) at the opponents eye?

It also seems it would be very easy to try to jam middle knuckles into an opponents eye when they are on the ground under you.

you can close your fist and extend out the middle joint to make it longer and like a finger in a closed fist. You would lose a an inch or two in reach from an extended finger but you can still hurt eyes with it.

Those pokes would be ruled as punches would they not? You would only lose a few inches in range.
 
Could always do the Forrest Griffin method he mentioned in his book: jab with your thumb extended so it slides up the opponent's nose into their eye
 
You could easily break your finger/knuckle, your opponent is constantly moving and defending.

Best bet is to punch or elbow someone in the skull than play a stupid game trying to secret eye gouge.

Not even taking into account it’s against the rules and a prick move.
 
Clearly someone who has never thrown a punch. There is a reason why people don't do it on the street, It is ineffective as a tool, and the damage done to your finger is not worth it.
 
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So i want you to stick your middle finger half way up.. but keep a fist... you can wear an mma glove or no glove only. Now punch a punching bag as hard as you can... make sure to hit it directly with the finger poking half way out... take a video please. Upload here after you break your finger...
 
There is no reason to church up the most effective technique there is. Any fighter who doesn't drop at least 1 eye poke a fight and one inside nut kick is a fool. It is legal one time per fight. It's like a super move.
 
someone’s never thrown a punch
 
If you can poke the eye you can punch it.

Just punch the damn eye, Jon.
 
You could easily break your finger/knuckle, your opponent is constantly moving and defending.

Best bet is to punch or elbow someone in the skull than play a stupid game trying to secret eye gouge.

Not even taking into account it’s against the rules and a prick move.
You don’t throw it like a punch, you use it like an eye poke but it’s with a knuckle instead of a finger.

Flick it out, extend it out there in the opponents face. You don’t need to apply hand hurting force.

Also since it’s not the tip of the finger but done with a closed fist. Not against the rules.
 
So i want you to stick your middle finger half way up.. but keep a fist... you can wear an mma glove or no glove only. Now punch a punching bag as hard as you can... make sure to hit it directly with the finger poking half way out... take a video please. Upload here after you break your finger...

But you can make something look like a punch but have the force of a poke. I can flick my knuckles out there like a poke without hand hurting force and it still can be ruled a punch.
 
If you can poke the eye you can punch it.

Just punch the damn eye, Jon.

Nah it’s easier to telegraph a punch with leg movement, and a punch needs way more cardio. People also don’t train to avoid poking motions like they do for punches.

You can poke 10,000 times and not break sweat but 100 punches could gas you.
 
You don’t throw it like a punch, you use it like an eye poke but it’s with a knuckle instead of a finger.

Flick it out, extend it out there in the opponents face. You don’t need to apply hand hurting force.

Also since it’s not the tip of the finger but done with a closed fist. Not against the rules.

Anytime you move a finger so it's no longer closed fist and try to jam it into something you risk hurting your joint. They are also wearing gloves so your knuckles are padded anyways and can't really be used to gouge.

Ultimately you are legally allowed to just punch them in face, so why are we trying to do all this "secret eye gouge" bullshit in the first place?

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