Please retire Chiesa

Fergelmince said:
He's looked a heIIuva lot worse

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Sometimes when I do something a little embarrassing, I'll think back to that moment and go "ahh at least I'm not a drunk hipster so high of my own inflated self importance that I try and storm a cage to take a spotlight".

The after part where he's following her backstage is also brutal. Didn't think it was so bad in the moment watching it but in retrospect oof man .
He's had to have watched that back and just died a little inside.
 
Carrotman23 said:
Sometimes when I do something a little embarrassing, I'll think back to that moment and go "ahh at least I'm not a drunk hipster so high of my own inflated self importance that I try and storm a cage to take a spotlight".

The after part where he's following her backstage is also brutal. Didn't think it was so bad in the moment watching it but in retrospect oof man .
He's had to have watched that back and just died a little inside.
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he looks like a virtue-signalling bitch. I can see maybe being that happy for your daughter, but for any other female???

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Fergelmince said:
he looks like a virtue-signalling bitch. I can see maybe being that happy for your daughter, but for any other female???

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Uhhhh ... I'm pretty sure it's okay to be happy for a women whose not your daughter my friend o_O .. like a wife or gf or friend or co-worker.... who hurt you lol .

The point here isn't that you shouldn't ever be happy for any other "female" the point is he went wayyyyy too far ha. I mean following her back stage and drunkenly being like "I fuckin love you"
Ooooffff just brutal, absolutely brutal.
 
Scared, out of rhythm, without an effective gameplan, panic wrestled as soon as he saw the first jab coming.

What's the point of entering the octagon like that?

Props to Holland for having the right mindset instead.
 
Fought like a guy that didn't want to be there and ready to quit at the slightest adversity....which he did!
 
A good offensive wise positional grappler with a rnc from heavens.

Unfortunately thats pretty much it and has been since he began.
Btw Holland is really good. You guys need to stop thinking he is a can or something just because big mw's outwrestled him.
 
He looked terrible, I'm not even sure he'd beat Tony Ferguson. His reactions to taking a punch were off.
 
humdizzle said:
yeah chiesa has always been a can. i think they just kept giving him fights and time at the desk because he didn't press big charges after the conor bus incident.
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He's a can? Beaten RDA, Magny, Jim Miller and Dariush. If he's a can, I'd hate to think what you consider a journeyman or club fighter.
 
Tough crowd in my opinion -- this surely isn't a good performance by Chiesa; his worst, I'd argue. But I feel this is a situation of confirmation bias. Retiring may be a reasonable desire for a fan, but this idea that he "sucks" and "has always been a can" is far from the truth. He has many big wins. He looked lost last night and had a terrible gameplan, but I feel Holland deserves some credit as well. Chiesa's best days are likely done, but let's not act like he still isn't better than 99.99% of mixed martial artists.
 
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