Please explain Jon Jones - Nick Diaz / Coco - Weed

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  1. taggermest

    taggermest Green Belt

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    Marijuana stays in your system an average of 30 days.

    Cocaine 2-3 days max right?

    How does Nick Diaz get suspended a year for smoking pot and JJ doesn't for snorting coke?

    I genuinely am confused. Plz explain
     
  2. The Clinch

    The Clinch Middle-Earth with Glee-Glop and the Floopty-Doos. Platinum Member

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    Because money.
     
  3. Rittsy

    Rittsy Red Belt

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    How do people not understand this.

    Weed/Cocaine is illegal in-competition.
    Weed/Cocaine is allowed out-of-competition.

    Diaz' in-competition test showed Weed in his system.
    Jones' out-of-competition test showed Coke in his system. Jones' in-competition test has not been released yet.

    An Athletic Commission cannot punish Jones because he did not break any rules regarding drug use. Diaz did.

    It's a crappy rule, but that's how it is.
     
  4. Wyrm

    Wyrm White Belt

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    Because White and the Fertitta brothers have a strange relation with honesty and integrity. I will never buy a UFC PPV again...

    And the way they doing it "tell the story, eyes forward, don't answer any question."
     
  5. itsnormal

    itsnormal Blue Belt

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    This.
    Would be interesting to see the post fight test. If he tests positive for coke that would cause a shitstorm
     
  6. Non

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    When Nick Diaz fails a test, it's the post fight piss test. Regardless of When he smoked you can't fail that test.

    Jones failed a random test a month before the fight. Because of that it's considered out of competition and the commission can't do anything about recreational drugs out of competition.

    If the UFC had scruples they would suspend Jones considering they've suspended people for ALLEGATIONS of code of conduct violations. They won't however. They'd need a video of Jones going face first into a pile of snow with 4 witnesses, at least 1of them white, and Jones grandmother holding two forms of personal identification to even consider it.
     
  7. Hannya MMA

    Hannya MMA Blue Belt

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    B/c Bones is untouchable and loved by the Fertita clan.

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  8. Char Jawz

    Char Jawz FrankieNYC Belt...RIP brother

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    Plus a lot of those old failed weed tests were before the threshold for cannabinoids were raised to the new amount, which is 10 times higher than previously.
     
  9. taggermest

    taggermest Green Belt

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    But weren't nicks result only a small amount of canniboids...of he had smoked 12 hours before the fight or even days before the fight it would have been a higher positive test right?
     
  10. juncito

    juncito Brown Belt

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    Diaz broke the rules Jones didn't... Thread
     
  11. Rittsy

    Rittsy Red Belt

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    Yes. But the test only shows if you smoked, not when you smoked. As far as they were concerned a small amount from 3 weeks ago was the equivalent of getting blazed in the locker room before walking out. It was a dumb set of circumstances, but a positive was a positive, there wasn't any wiggle room (They have amended those rules now).

    If Jones tests positive in his post-fight test [in-competition] for cocaine, he should receive the same punishment as Diaz.
     
  12. Monkey Pride

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    I have never believe weed should be a NC. I honestly wouldn't give a fuck or think the other guy had an advantage if he smoked a blunt between rounds. Healy beat Miller as much as I hate that. Diaz beat Gomi. And so on. Weed is not advantageous in a fight. I'm a stoner btw.
     
  13. SNES Chalmers

    SNES Chalmers Blue Belt

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    How about playing video games? Stoned you better than sober you or no difference?
     
  14. taggermest

    taggermest Green Belt

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    Seriously . This whole thing is absolutely retarded. Ass backwards rules etc

    Conformists are the most dangerous group of people there are
     
  15. EXlLE**

    EXlLE** Orange Belt

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    Jon Jones = LWH GOAT
    Nick Diaz = stoner in the midget division
     
  16. taggermest

    taggermest Green Belt

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    Oh please Nick is an MMA legend and a huge draw like it or not history has already wrote itself. He's fighting the all time GOAT in a few days for gods sake. Nick is in high demand. Like it or not.

    WW division is probably the most STACKED division in the UFC. You sir are a complete moron.
     
  17. Shamrock388

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    cause you're gay for calling it 'coco'
     
  18. EXlLE**

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    Not the All Time Goat if you can get beat up by LHW and HWs and havee a huge hole in the grappling game. Jon GOAT Jones would ragdoll him
     
  19. 209Homie

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    ^^^^^^^^What is sad, is that people... Even after this Jon Jones Fiasco... Still don't realize that Nick Diaz was right (in asking for his suspension to be overturned). You see Diaz had metabolites in his system, but The Nevada Athletic Commission could never prove when it was in his system (because they conduct Urine test's, not blood tests)... Thus, his argument that he used those drugs in the out of competition drug phase... was valid (as pointed out in this video/40:24), since the NAC could not prove otherwise... [YT]yEKKGC6qoJw[/YT]

    The Real answer to the TS Question.... Is that Nick Diaz's problem wasn't that he used marijuana in too close a proximity to the fight. Instead, it's that he's got the wrong drug of choice (Unlike Jon Jones)... NAC set up a flawed/arbitrary drug policy that persecuted Diaz... Its not a coincidence that they raised the thresholds for testing positive.... However, there policy still sucks.... And the UFC... proved that they are greedy as hell....For not using their code of conduct policies to at least delay the fight (since he was doing coke a month before the fight)...At the very least, they should have released the results...but they feared a backlash, so they sat on it....to cash in on a grudge match PPV... jaja, Dana is so predictable.

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    http://sports.yahoo.com/news/nevada-athletic-commission-raises-threshold-152351772--mma.html

    http://www.mmafighting.com/ufc/2012/2/10/2788311/ufc-nick-diaz-blame-commission-marijuana-thc-nevada-mma-news
     
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  20. loisestrad

    loisestrad Gold Belt Platinum Member

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    Someone should call Fedor and tell him he's got a fight scheduled in a few days.
     

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