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Ara tech said:
Not a surprise. PFL used to pay a washed up fighter post prime Gegard Mousasi who draw no audience nor crowd 700K £ per fight.
Instead of scheduling Gegard Mousasi for three fights with huge amount of money, use those 1/2 millions dollars to sign the dozen of 7-0 10-0 9-1 7-1 fighters from post soviet republic, who are younger and have potential, make them fight each others for 20K-50K dollars, and after the natural selection you will end up with the best roster in the world in 5 7 years.
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you're confusing Coker's Bellator with PFL. Curent PFL has not signed, nor had Moose fight.
 
Ara tech said:
Waste tons of money on celebrities and famous talentless people, instead of investing on top prospects worldwide and trying to build superstars can only be a bad move.

A bunch of retards.

Not a surprise. PFL used to pay a washed up fighter post prime Gegard Mousasi who draw no audience nor crowd 700K £ per fight.
Instead of scheduling Gegard Mousasi for three fights with huge amount of money, use those 1/2 millions dollars to sign the dozen of 7-0 10-0 9-1 7-1 fighters from post soviet republic, who are younger and have potential, make them fight each others for 20K-50K dollars, and after the natural selection you will end up with the best roster in the world in 5 7 years.

Why resign a 36 years old post prime Douglas Lima for huge amount of money, and he draw no crowd as well, when you can sign a dozen of potential elite figher who are younger and could be future stars and for sure would beat Douglas Lima.

Bad moves only lead to more bad moves. If you want to be the best organization, you need first to have the best fighters.
Patricio must stay as he is elite and will be a solide test for the new generations. But Douglas Lima and Mousasi have to retire or fight somewhere else.

You need to invest on the potential future Khabib, Jon Jones, Connor, not on some artists or washed up fighters. Bellator had the image for many years as retirement home. And it took them years to get ride of it. What will be next for PFL is unsure.
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Some of this true.

But it takes a lot of money to run a real MMA org today with any kind of consistency that fans will care. Especially now days, as the UFC gives MMA fans so many events and media to consume. PFL's and Bellator's of the world are always stuck in this realm of signing fresh new talent and building from within versus the flip side. Signing named talent(usually UFC castoffs), sometimes overpaying, maybe long in the tooth, etc. They justify these moves from signing up a washed up Rampage(or insert many of the names) will bring more eyes to the product than any great prospects will. It is also cheaper signing those guys than any type of national advertising campaign cost. Plus they look at as they can use these named guys as stepping stone to building the prospects records to appear they are truly top 10 material regardless of the org.. It is a necessary evil with these orgs to sign these guys otherwise you can't get any fans to even watch your product. Then the next issue is these orgs usually absolutely suck at utilizing the roster they have built. That was always Coker's issue(along with some wonky contract language at times) and we'll see how PFL does in 25, but 24 sucked.


P.S.: That Moose deal was BS. Coker resigned him at the eleventh hour knowing he won't have to pay him. This after telling his management the months before they weren't interested at the value Moose wanted. That is the main issue why PFL was so pissed about it. They went to him and asked for a pay cut after seeing what took place literally weeks before they took over but the buyout was basically done. Like you said paying 700K to Moose isn't very smart. Moose said, nope that is my contract and honor it. They said no, moose started a lawsuit and PFL said fine here is your release. Moose is more pissed now because no one is going pay him that kind of money.
 
skylolow said:
Some of this true.

But it takes a lot of money to run a real MMA org today with any kind of consistency that fans will care. Especially now days, as the UFC gives MMA fans so many events and media to consume. PFL's and Bellator's of the world are always stuck in this realm of signing fresh new talent and building from within versus the flip side. Signing named talent(usually UFC castoffs), sometimes overpaying, maybe long in the tooth, etc. They justify these moves from signing up a washed up Rampage(or insert many of the names) will bring more eyes to the product than any great prospects will. It is also cheaper signing those guys than any type of national advertising campaign cost. Plus they look at as they can use these named guys as stepping stone to building the prospects records to appear they are truly top 10 material regardless of the org.. It is a necessary evil with these orgs to sign these guys otherwise you can't get any fans to even watch your product. Then the next issue is these orgs usually absolutely suck at utilizing the roster they have built. That was always Coker's issue(along with some wonky contract language at times) and we'll see how PFL does in 25, but 24 sucked.


P.S.: That Moose deal was BS. Coker resigned him at the eleventh hour knowing he won't have to pay him. This after telling his management the months before they weren't interested at the value Moose wanted. That is the main issue why PFL was so pissed about it. They went to him and asked for a pay cut after seeing what took place literally weeks before they took over but the buyout was basically done. Like you said paying 700K to Moose isn't very smart. Moose said, nope that is my contract and honor it. They said no, moose started a lawsuit and PFL said fine here is your release. Moose is more pissed now because no one is going pay him that kind of money.
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Counterpoint, PFL had to approve all the contracts before the sale, you can't just pick and choose
 
TorontoTO said:
Counterpoint, PFL had to approve all the contracts before the sale, you can't just pick and choose
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I'm sure they had to on some level. But we just don't know what that time frame was when they did that. Isn't like they can look through 200+ contracts or whatever in a day or whatever.

Also I'm not sure they have the choice to say we'll take this one, but not this one, or if that is even legal.
 
skylolow said:
I'm sure they had to on some level. But we just don't know what that time frame was when they did that. Isn't like they can look through 200+ contracts or whatever in a day or whatever.

Also I'm not sure they have the choice to say we'll take this one, but not this one, or if that is even legal.
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Supposedly the deal to buy occurred over multiple months, PFL just thought they could pick and choose which contracts they have to abide by
 
Well I, for one, loved Nav’s performance.
 
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