Pecker Problems (Mueller+ Investigation Thread v. 21)

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Fawlty said:
Yet another lawyer abandons Trump. This time, Don McGahn.

He's the one who passed along Yates' concerns about Flynn, and who refused to fire Mueller.

https://www.cnn.com/2018/08/29/politics/don-mcgahn-brett-kavanaugh-donald-trump-tweet/index.html
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Bummer. He is the man responsible for "the list". It's not clear to me who will have Trump's ear for judicial picks after McGahn leaves.

I predict that people in this thread will speculate baselessly about McGahn's reasons for stepping down.
 
waiguoren said:
Bummer. He is the man responsible for "the list". It's not clear to me who will have Trump's ear for judicial picks after McGahn leaves.

I predict that people in this thread will speculate baselessly about McGahn's reasons for stepping down.
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Based speculation: The 30-hour grilling from Mueller reported a week ago convinced him it was in his best interest to leave.
 
Fawlty said:
Based speculation: The 30-hour grilling from Mueller reported a week ago convinced him it was in his best interest to leave.
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That's 30 hours over nine months, not thirty hours in a week.

Also, your post validates yet another prediction of mine.
 
Investigative reporter Paul Sperry dropped another bombshell this week.
James Comey sent a letter to the House Oversight Committee on October 28th 2016 stating the FBI reopened the Hillary email investigation after they found Clinton’s State Department emails on pervert Anthony Weiner’s laptop.

Hundreds of thousands of emails were found on Weiner’s laptop yet the FBI closed the second investigation after a few days claiming they magically read through all the emails.

Former FBI Director James Comey previously told Congress the FBI examined all 700,000 emails found on Weiner’s laptop–it turns out that the FBI only examined approximately 3,000 out of 700,000 emails.

It gets worse…
Clinton fixer and Trump hater, Peter Strzok was the FBI agent who actually hand-picked the 3,000 emails from the 700,000 email tranche to be examined.

“Peter Strzok, the disgraced agent who was in charge of this Mid-Year investigation–he actually personally hand-picked the 3,000 email sample and with 2 other investigators and they went through them all supposedly…” Sperry said on FOX News’ Ingraham Angle.

Then Comey lied about it under oath to Congress…




Comey told Congress in a sworn testimony that “thanks to the wizardry of our technology,” the FBI was able to delete the majority of messages as “duplicates” of emails they had already examined. FBI agents then toiled “night after night after night” to examine the remaining emails.

NOT TRUE. Comey’s protege Peter Strzok hand-picked the 3,000 emails to make sure it looked like there was nothing classified or incriminating in the bulk of emails.

Thanks to Judicial Watch, we know at least 18 emails found on Weiner’s laptop contained classified information including the name of a CIA official.

President Trump put Hillary Clinton and the Deep State on notice Saturday morning in a tweetstorm.

Donald J. Trump
✔@realDonaldTrump
Big story out that the FBI ignored tens of thousands of Crooked Hillary Emails, many of which are REALLY BAD. Also gave false election info. I feel sure that we will soon be getting to the bottom of all of this corruption. At some point I may have to get involved!

6:05 AM - Aug 25, 2018

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/20...000-emails-to-be-examined-from-weiner-laptop/


For those of you on the left that want to call this "old news" or "resolved". It clearly is not. Strzok is a biased and dirty actor in this matter. Comey lied to Congress. We cannot let these scumbags get away with using their power to favor one side over the other. We cannot let our National Security be abused so thoroughly in the name of politics.
 
so he still picked classified ones?

what an idiot, oh wait. apparently it's possible to commit spillage w/o intent (that's actually factually impossible)
 
waiguoren said:
The point of the article is that CNN appears to have published fake news and refuses to retract its story. CNN's "anonymous sources" told Carl "worse than Watergate" Bernstein that Michael Cohen was present when Trump allegedly heard about the Trump Tower meeting in advance. Other outlets confirmed the story only to retract it and out the source as Cohen's very own lawyer. Now that lawyer (Lanny Davis) says it's not true at all.

Cohen probably lied to Davis, Davis leaked the lie to Carl Bernstein, and CNN published the lie. Now the credibility of all of them is in the gutter.
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That just might be the dumbest conclusion one could draw from your article.

CNN gets a statement from Cohen's lawyer. They cite him (or someone he talked to) as an anonymous source. A month later, Cohen's lawyer says that what was reported was "false." And you are up in arms not because someone in the Trump's orbit is changing their story to avoid liability, but because CNN hasn't rushed to offer a retraction.

The problem for you isn't that everyone connected to this is lying, it's that news organizations aren't issuing retractions every half hour to keep up with the changing statements of all involved.

Do you need an asterisk in every article that says "This person is connected in some way to the trump organization, so they're probably lying?"

waiguoren said:
Furthermore, the "Russia collusion" conspiracy theory took another major blow. It's a great day for President Trump.
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Of course. Less than a week after two guilty pleas from his campaign manager and personal lawyer, both looking to cooperate with the investigation, and you think this makes trump look good. Do they all grow dumb down under?
 
Darkballs said:
CNN gets a statement from Cohen's lawyer. They cite him (or someone he talked to) as an anonymous source. A month later, Cohen's lawyer says that what was reported was "false." And you are up in arms not because someone in the Trump's orbit is changing their story to avoid liability, but because CNN hasn't rushed to offer a retraction.

The problem for you isn't that everyone connected to this is lying, it's that news organizations aren't issuing retractions every half hour to keep up with the changing statements of all involved.

Do you need an asterisk in every article that says "This person is connected in some way to the trump organization, so they're probably lying?"
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Lanny Davis is "connected to the Trump organization"? Let's see the evidence of that beyond his representation of Michael Cohen. He's a long-time Clinton operative and major Democratic donor. He despises Trump. He has egg on his face right now.

The point is that Carl "Worse than Watergate" Bernstein should have considered that he was talking to a highly questionable source for these eye-catching claims. Real journalism requires seeking out other sources that corroborate or contradict the claims of the questionable source. If no other sources can be found, the article should not be published.

Darkballs said:
Of course. Less than a week after two guilty pleas from his campaign manager and personal lawyer, both looking to cooperate with the investigation, and you think this makes trump look good.
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I didn't say it "makes Trump look good". It makes CNN look bad, and it puts another bullet in the "Russia collusion" conspiracy theory.

Cohen's case is not part of the Mueller probe or "Russia collusion".

As for Manafort: it's possible he could flip and offer some juicy tidbits related to "Russia collusion". The problem is that these tidbits are unlikely to amount to anything that hurts Trump. As I have written, the greatest potential damage to Trump will come from the SDNY investigation.
 
waiguoren said:
Lanny Davis is "connected to the Trump organization"? Let's see the evidence of that beyond his representation of Michael Cohen. He's a long-time Clinton operative and major Democratic donor. He despises Trump. He has egg on his face right now.

The point is that Carl "Worse than Watergate" Bernstein should have considered that he was talking to a highly questionable source for these eye-catching claims. Real journalism requires seeking out other sources that corroborate or contradict the claims of the questionable source. If no other sources can be found, the article should not be published.



I didn't say it "makes Trump look good". It makes CNN look bad, and it puts another bullet in the "Russia collusion" conspiracy theory.

Cohen's case is not part of the Mueller probe or "Russia collusion".

As for Manafort: it's possible he could flip and offer some juicy tidbits related to "Russia collusion". The problem is that these tidbits are unlikely to amount to anything that hurts Trump. As I have written, the greatest potential damage to Trump will come from the SDNY investigation.
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Why bother with collusion when we already have conspiracy to commit federal crimes?
 
waiguoren said:
Hm let's see...it's been the main rallying call of the anti-Trump people for two years?
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Does it matter when we've found other easily provable crimes that are both documented and audio recorded?
 
Rational Poster said:
Does it matter when we've found other easily provable crimes that are both documented and audio recorded?
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Of course, I reject the premise of your question. But yes, it does matter that the main narrative of the anti-Trump forces for the past two years has been shot full of bullet holes.
 
waiguoren said:
Of course, I reject the premise of your question. But yes, it does matter that the main narrative of the anti-Trump forces for the past two years has been shot full of bullet holes.
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Sorry none of this makes the multiple Trump Tower meetings with Russians about "adoptions" go away.
 
waiguoren said:
Lanny Davis is "connected to the Trump organization"? Let's see the evidence of that beyond his representation of Michael Cohen. He's a long-time Clinton operative and major Democratic donor. He despises Trump. He has egg on his face right now.

The point is that Carl "Worse than Watergate" Bernstein should have considered that he was talking to a highly questionable source for these eye-catching claims. Real journalism requires seeking out other sources that corroborate or contradict the claims of the questionable source. If no other sources can be found, the article should not be published.



I didn't say it "makes Trump look good". It makes CNN look bad, and it puts another bullet in the "Russia collusion" conspiracy theory.

Cohen's case is not part of the Mueller probe or "Russia collusion".

As for Manafort: it's possible he could flip and offer some juicy tidbits related to "Russia collusion". The problem is that these tidbits are unlikely to amount to anything that hurts Trump. As I have written, the greatest potential damage to Trump will come from the SDNY investigation.
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As for the real journalism thing, CNN is standing by its story that Cohen told more than Lanny Davis, more sources than just Davis confirmed what Cohen said about the Trump tower meeting.

As for Davis, here is an interesting discussion about his odd behavior, Nick Ackerman ( a former assistant Watergate prosecutor) thinks, based on the way the plea agreement was orchestrated, that Cohen is cooperating with Mueller and that a cooperation agreement was put under seal at the same time Cohen plead guilty. He attributes Davis' change to the Mueller team coming down on him and telling him to shut up about what Cohen knows and will testify to, or Mueller will pull the agreement.

 
waiguoren said:
Aha! I had a suspicion you were still one of the True Believers.
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Can you explain why Don Jr met with Russians specifically to receive assistance from the Russian government specifically for the election?
 
for a smart guy alan is really fucking stupid. Oh and everyone knows trump is fucking crooked. People don't even blink anymore about shit like this.
 
waiguoren said:
That's 30 hours over nine months, not thirty hours in a week.

Also, your post validates yet another prediction of mine.
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It was over nine months? I thought that was a recent development.
 
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