Paulo Costa *kills* Khamzat Chimaev

[KillerIsBack V2]

I didn’t see your post before I posted below

By all means, record that shit too and send it to nicky rod…. Guhh, he was on Lex’s podcast and was asked “what mma guys can hang with the top grapplers today”… and answers that he rolled once with Burns and thinks he “has good understanding of position” and “surprised him how good he was”.

I was yelled at the screen in the office. Lex needs a “Yung Jamie” to google shit during convos.

 

[Edward Henry Greb]

Then you read the entire argument and have no where to run now! Everything said before that was excluding the gnp.

You think I am running? What a fantasy world you live in.

Let me speak plainly, Rockhold would beat the absolute dog ship out of Gilbert Burns. He'd destroy him on the ground, too, because (yes) size + GnP matter.

Paulo Costa would similarly decimate Burns.

Hell, Dan Hooker decimated Burns.

The fact Chimaev struggled against Burns @ WW is proof of Chimaev's mediocrity.

Gilbert Burns may be elite in BJJ, but he is not elite in MMA, Yes, he is very good, but he is not elite. He is a notch below elite — and that is at WW.

Burns failed to achieve the title @ LW and he failed to achieve the title @ WW.
Again, he is very good, but you must face the fact he has proven not to be elite across both divisions he's competed in.

Given his size, Burns wouldn't even be a contender @ MW ... which is where Cimaevev now is (who barely got passed Burns @ WW).

Denial ≠ rebuttal

 

[KillerIsBack V2]

You think I am running? What a fantasy world you live in.

Let me speak plainly, Rockhold would beat the absolute dog ship out of Gilbert Burns. He'd destroy him on the ground, too, because (yes) size + GnP matter.

Paulo Costa would similarly decimate Burns.

Hell, Dan Hooker decimated Burns.

The fact Chimaev struggled against Burns @ WW is proof of Chimaev's mediocrity.

Gilbert Burns may be elite in BJJ, but he is not elite in MMA, Yes, he is very good, but he is not elite. He is a notch below elite — and that is at WW.

Burns failed to achieve the title @ LW and he failed to achieve the title @ WW.
Again, he is very good, but you must face the fact he has proven not to be elite across both divisions he's competed in.

Given his size, Burns wouldn't even be a contender @ MW ... which is where Cimaevev now is (who barely got passed Burns @ WW).

Denial ≠ rebuttal

Lol, not only are you running, but your hitting ur head into a traffic light while looking back laughing.

I wrote “below MW”… now unless your retarded, MW=MW, and not MW>MW. All your examples were of MWs… i hope its easier to underatand now since I’m using your “colors and math symbol” langues.

Nobody said Gil was the beat mma fighter, and obviously the elite guys at WW avoided the ground against him including Usman. Only guy that didnt have a “avoind the ground” gameplan was grandpa Maia.

I actually read all your gobbirish now, and you seemed to have drifted into irrelevancy towards the end of ur post, which has nothing to do with anything I said yet its replying to me.

i’ll also go off topic and say I have no idea what Gil was doing at LW to begin with, not saying its as stupid as rumble at WW, but Gil was competing all his life at 170 and above in grappling… even as a teenager.

 

[CJrider]

Compares Burns and Paulo Costa's grappling by making it seem like Burns is the joke black belt.

Good bait.

Khamzat on top of Costa would absolutely go for aggressive GNP, and he absolutely would not on Burns.

 

[Fossor]

TS knows!
Cyril Gane = everything Jon Jones is NOT

Spoiler

Bet your house on Khamzat

 

[Ayreon]

Good luck taking down Costa and, most of all, keeping him down lol.

It would take 2 full Merab Dvalishvili's gas tanks.

 

[humdizzle]

who has costa really beat though in the last 3-4 years?

he looked like hot garbage against rockhold. Barely got by Yoel.
of course got clowned on by izzy
didn't cut weight against mediocre vettori and still lost.

 

[CainWasAble]

Chimaev is going to win and probably make it look easy IMO

 

[Substance Abuse]

TS knows!
Cyril Gane = everything Jon Jones is NOT

Spoiler

Bet your house on Khamzat

 

[Katsushyro]

Gilbert Burns may be elite in BJJ, but he is not elite in MMA, Yes, he is very good, but he is not elite. He is a notch below elite — and that is at WW.

Burns is not elite at MMA? Wtf are you on? Just delete your account already.

 

[eighterumg5]

Khmzat is so annoying

 

[Edward Henry Greb]

Burns is not elite at MMA? Wtf are you on? Just delete your account already.

Why so triggered?

It's not an insult, it's an opinion.

Consider the possibility that we have different definitions of "Elite"

To me, Burns is very high level, but he's always failed to become a Champion.

For that matter, I don't even consider a garden-variety "Champion" to necessarily be elite.

According to my definition, truly Elite fighters are Champions among champions.

The GSPs, the Silvas, the Demetrius Johnsons, the Jon Joneses, the Khabib Nurmagomedovs. Etc,

If you want to call Burns "elite," be my guest. He certainly is a capable exciting MMA fighter.

 

[Shilajit]

You think I am running? What a fantasy world you live in.

Let me speak plainly, Rockhold would beat the absolute dog ship out of Gilbert Burns. He'd destroy him on the ground, too, because (yes) size + GnP matter.

Paulo Costa would similarly decimate Burns.

Hell, Dan Hooker decimated Burns.

The fact Chimaev struggled against Burns @ WW is proof of Chimaev's mediocrity.

Gilbert Burns may be elite in BJJ, but he is not elite in MMA, Yes, he is very good, but he is not elite. He is a notch below elite — and that is at WW.

Burns failed to achieve the title @ LW and he failed to achieve the title @ WW.
Again, he is very good, but you must face the fact he has proven not to be elite across both divisions he's competed in.

Given his size, Burns wouldn't even be a contender @ MW ... which is where Cimaevev now is (who barely got passed Burns @ WW).

Denial ≠ rebuttal

I'm going to bump this heavily just for your own educational purposes when you finally clue in and recognize how good Khazmat actually is.

 

[Edward Henry Greb]

I'm going to bump this heavily just for your own educational purposes when you finally clue in how good Khazmat actually is.

I'll bet you won't.

But hey, I've been wrong before. We all have.

IMO, Khamzat gases out too much to be elite.

Worse, his striking training isn't deeply ingrained. Watch the tape closely. Khamzat also started throwing hammer fists against Burns, rather than straight punches, when he got deep into a firefight. His training is not ingrained. He's still green.

Worse still, he wasn't confident enough in his grappling to engage Burns on the ground.

I do think Khamzat showed heart in that fight, which is very important. Got a given credit, he didn't give up, and he kept trying.

That said, Khamzat had a massive size advantage, so to be engaged in a monumental struggle with a much smaller man, my bet is that you'll remember this thread, but it is I who will be educating you.

 

[Shilajit]

I'll bet you won't.

But hey, I've been wrong before. We all have.

Khamzat gases out too much to be elite.

Watch the tape closely. Khamzat also started throwing hammer fists against Burns, rather than straight punches, when he got deep into a firefight. His training is not ingrained. He's still green.

I do think Khamzat showed heart, which is important. He didn't give up.

Still, to have that kind of size advantage, and to be engaged in a monumental struggle with a much smaller man, my that is that you'll remember this thread, but it is I who will be educating you.

You're so fixated on this match against burns where he fought stupid and basically brawled with him for 3 rounds, that you're ignoring the level of talent and skillset he brings to the table.

When Khazmat was fighting more intelligently and measured initially, he was very impressive. Showcased exceptional defensive responsibility as well. The problem is that he allowed himself to brawl and got sucked into having a war with the dude, rather than fighting his right. A smart fight.

I think he showed glimpses that if he just fought a more calculated, strategic fight that it would've been fairly one sided. But he got sucked into the war.

That's why his corner was absolutely ripping him to shreds. On the one hand, he showed all this talent and potential, on the other he was just fighting like an idiot.

I think people are so fixated on him having this close fight with Burns that they ignore the context of what actually happened.

It was also his first real step up in competition. Burns isn't a joke dude. He beat Wonderboy. Beat Woodley. Dropped Usman. The guy can hang.

It also doesn't work like that. Countless fighters move up and have infinitely more success than they'd had in prior divisions.

It's the same sort of logic where people were saying Jones barely got past Santos and Reyes, Gane smokes him. Ngannou smokes him.

Things don't work like that dude. Forget about weight and start paying attention to the actual fighters, skills and the style matchups.

All this stuff you're doing is just useless mental masturbation. Well intentioned I'm sure, but misguided.

 

[Edward Henry Greb]

You're so fixated on this match against burns where he fought stupid and basically brawled with him for 3 rounds, that you're ignoring the level of talent and skillset he brings to the table.

When Khazmat was fighting more intelligently and measured initially, he was very impressive. Showcased exceptional defensive responsibility as well. The problem is that he allowed himself to brawl and got sucked into having a war with the dude, rather than fighting his right. A smart fight.

I think he showed glimpses that if he just fought a more calculated, strategic fight that it would've been fairly one sided. But he got sucked into the war.

That's why his corner was absolutely ripping him to shreds. On the one hand, he showed all this talent and potential, on the other he was just fighting like an idiot.

I think people are so fixated on him having this close fight with Burns that they ignore the context of what actually happened.

It was also his first real step up in. Burns isn't a joke dude. He beat Wonderboy. Beat Woodley. Dropped Usman. The guy can hang.

It also doesn't work like that. Countless fighters move up and have infinitely more success than they'd had in prior divisions.

It's the same sort of logic where people were saying Jones barely got past Santos and Reyes, Gane smokes him. Ngannou smokes him.

Things don't work like that dude. Forget about weight and start paying attention to the actual fighters, skills and the style matchups.

All this stuff you're doing is just useless mental masturbation. Well intentioned I'm sure, but misguided.

Sorry you wrote so much, because I stopped reading after the first line.

You totally ignored the fact that Khamzat is stupid, he is also short-winded, and his skillset in punching isn't there.

I literally described how Khamzat threw "hammer-fists" in the trenches with Burns, losing all professional technique.

Truly good strikers don't lose their technique in the trenches.

Keeping one's technique in the trenches is literally what separates the professionals from the pretenders.

Making stupid decisions, being short-winded, and losing technique deep in a firefight (against a smaller guy) = disaster when Khamzat faces elite competition against a big guy.

Say what you want after this, make no difference to me.

 

[Shilajit]

I'll bet you won't.

But hey, I've been wrong before. We all have.

IMO, Khamzat gases out too much to be elite.

Worse, his striking training isn't deeply ingrained. Watch the tape closely. Khamzat also started throwing hammer fists against Burns, rather than straight punches, when he got deep into a firefight. His training is not ingrained. He's still green.

Worse still, he wasn't confident enough in his grappling to engage Burns on the ground.

I do think Khamzat showed heart in that fight, which is very important. Got a given credit, he didn't give up, and he kept trying.

That said, Khamzat had a massive size advantage, so to be engaged in a monumental struggle with a much smaller man, my bet is that you'll remember this thread, but it is I who will be educating you.

You said it yourself. He's a little green. We know he's been hanging with and beating legit guys in practice but burns was the first real step up in the cage.

And he fought like an idiot. But still won.

To me, it's those flashes of brilliance he showed that hold more merit than his decision to brawl. If he fought smart and to his potential, I think that fight ends up being fairly one sided.

I think maybe the kid's just a warrior and wanted to go to battle with someone honestly.

Otherwise, everything he did was completely nonsensical. His livid corner says it all really, lol.

 

[Shilajit]

Sorry you wrote so much, because I stopped reading after the first line.

You totally ignored the fact that Khamzat is stupid, he is also short-winded, and his skillset in punching isn't there.

I literally described how Khamzat threw "hammer-fists" in the trenches with Burns, losing all professional technique.

Truly good strikers don't lose their technique in the trenches.

Keeping one's technique in the trenches is literally what separates the professionals from the pretenders.

Say what you want after this, make no difference to me.

It was a good post dude.

After reading some of your stuff, you seem fairly well spoken and intentioned in your reasoning. I respect it.

But I think there's some truth to be heard on my side of things.

 

[Mind Mine]

Costa is inconsistent but a focused Costa would probably beat his ass

 

[Edward Henry Greb]

It was a good post dude.

After reading some of your stuff, you seem fairly well spoken and intentioned in your reasoning. I respect it.

But I think there's some truth to be heard on my side of things.

Okay, ditto.

It's okay that we disagree, that's part of the fun.

Cheers ... and time will tell