Past vs Present...who wins these awesome fights??

[JKS]

One of my all time fav topics is matching up fighters from the past to the current. And fights that no one has really thought of or talked about. With that said, who wins these 10 fights ?? And how do you like these fights??

Frank Mir 2009 vs Jailton Almeida
Thiago Alves 2009 vs Jack Della
Thiago Silva 2011 vs Khalil Rountree Jr
Rampage Jackson 2007 vs Alex Perreira
Ben Henderson 2012 vs Arman Tsarukyan
Renan Barao 2013 vs Sean Omalley
Ricardo Lamas 2014 vs Mosvar Evloev
Shogun Rua 2011 vs Jiri Prochazka
Rogerio Nogueira 2009 vs Magomed Ankalaev
JDS 2011 vs Sergey Pavovich

 

[Get To Da Choppa]

I think Frank Mir wins with the intricacies of details of maneuvers that Jailton doesn't even know the name of

Thiago Alves wins and gets his shittle tot

And homely wife JDS wins by KO

Also pre-TJ Barao wins and unfortunately gives us this again

 

[Gabe]

Mir
JDM
Rountree
Rampage/Alex is 50/50
Arman
Barao
Evloev
Shogun
Ankalaev
JDS

 

[OldBoy91]

I love these kinds of threads.

Mir vs Almeida- very interesting one. Jailton clearly has a huge wrestling advantage, and he could get on top and try to control Mir. He doesn't have very dangerous ground and pound though, and Mir had a great guard when he wasn't being made to eat shots off of his back. Mir could very well take a limb home with him in this one.

Alves vs JDM- Alves was a beast striker in his prime, but never a ohenominal boxer, I think JDM pieces him up with his hands, while Alves tries to take out Jack's legs with low kicks. I'd probably pick JDM in a close decision or late finish when Thiago slows down.

Thiago Silva vs Khalil Rountree- Rountree is probably the more refined striker, but prime Silva was just a battering ram. I think he'd probably look to take Khalil down and brutalise him from the mount, and that's what I think would happen. Silva KO via gnp.

Rampage vs Poatan- All I can see when I picture this fight is Rampage vs Forrest but worse. Poatan would eat that lead leg alive. Probably stops Rampage with low kicks.

Bendo vs Arman- I see this being an entertaining grapple heavy fight filled with scrambles similar to the Arman/Gamrot fight. Prime Benson never slowed down and he was a tank physically too. Knowing his track record I'd say Bendo by split decision.

Barao vs O'Malley- This is a tough one. I think everybody underestimates O'Malley, and he had the precision to tag Barao repeatedly. However I think prime Barao had everything in his arsenal. Not sure about a finish but I'd say Barao by decision by mixing in the striking and groundwork. Probably has to survive being hurt along the way.


Lamas vs Evloev- I think this one is pretty simple. Lamas often gave up takedowns to drop for the guillotine. I see Evloev exploiting that to repeatedly put Lamas on his back. Working to free himself from chokes, having a few close calls, then controlling him on the ground to close decision. Evloev wins.

Shogun vs Jiri- interesting, but imo Jiri was too wild and Shogun was better everywhere. Iron chin in his prime, athletic and diverse striking attacks, KO power. I think Shogun by K0.

Lil Nog vs Ankalaev- The only thing that makes this interesting is Ankalaev's negative fight IQ. If he keeps it standing he easily outpoints Nog from the outside with his boxing. If he takes him down and plays in his guard, I think he gets caught in a sub. The issue is Ankalaev is prone to doing something exactly like that once in a while.

JDS vs Pavlovich- I think prime JDS is comfortably the better boxer between these two, but he always struggled with straight shots down the middle, and they just so happen to be some of Pav's best punches. From his jab that he rocks HWs to their core with, to his rear shovel uppercut. I think he has the tools to hurt JDS. That being said, JDS was lighter and more mobile while still carrying true HW power. Really tough one to call. Slightly favour JDS but wouldn't at all be surprised if Pav got him either.

 

[KarateYeah]

Father time always wins

 

[JKS]

I love these kinds of threads.

Mir vs Almeida- very interesting one. Jailton clearly has a huge wrestling advantage, and he could get on top and try to control Mir. He doesn't have very dangerous ground and pound though, and Mir had a great guard when he wasn't being made to eat shots off of his back. Mir could very well take a limb home with him in this one.

Alves vs JDM- Alves was a beast striker in his prime, but never a ohenominal boxer, I think JDM pieces him up with his hands, while Alves tries to take out Jack's legs with low kicks. I'd probably pick JDM in a close decision or late finish when Thiago slows down.

Thiago Silva vs Khalil Rountree- Rountree is probably the more refined striker, but prime Silva was just a battering ram. I think he'd probably look to take Khalil down and brutalise him from the mount, and that's what I think would happen. Silva KO via gnp.

Rampage vs Poatan- All I can see when I picture this fight is Rampage vs Forrest but worse. Poatan would eat that lead leg alive. Probably stops Rampage with low kicks.

Bendo vs Arman- I see this being an entertaining grapple heavy fight filled with scrambles similar to the Arman/Gamrot fight. Prime Benson never slowed down and he was a tank physically too. Knowing his track record I'd say Bendo by split decision.

Barao vs O'Malley- This is a tough one. I think everybody underestimates O'Malley, and he had the precision to tag Barao repeatedly. However I think prime Barao had everything in his arsenal. Not sure about a finish but I'd say Barao by decision by mixing in the striking and groundwork. Probably has to survive being hurt along the way.


Lamas vs Evloev- I think this one is pretty simple. Lamas often gave up takedowns to drop for the guillotine. I see Evloev exploiting that to repeatedly put Lamas on his back. Working to free himself from chokes, having a few close calls, then controlling him on the ground to close decision. Evloev wins.

Shogun vs Jiri- interesting, but imo Jiri was too wild and Shogun was better everywhere. Iron chin in his prime, athletic and diverse striking attacks, KO power. I think Shogun by K0.

Lil Nog vs Ankalaev- The only thing that makes this interesting is Ankalaev's negative fight IQ. If he keeps it standing he easily outpoints Nog from the outside with his boxing. If he takes him down and plays in his guard, I think he gets caught in a sub. The issue is Ankalaev is prone to doing something exactly like that once in a while.

JDS vs Pavlovich- I think prime JDS is comfortably the better boxer between these two, but he always struggled with straight shots down the middle, and they just so happen to be some of Pav's best punches. From his jab that he rocks HWs to their core with, to his rear shovel uppercut. I think he has the tools to hurt JDS. That being said, JDS was lighter and more mobile while still carrying true HW power. Really tough one to call. Slightly favour JDS but wouldn't at all be surprised if Pav got him either.

Very nice breakdown! I agree with your pics.

 

[Bobby Boulders]

Rampage/Poatan is nasty hard to decide. That was probably Rampage at his best.

 

[FraudGoat]

These fantasy matchups almost always favor modern fighters because the sport has evolved so much since 2009 or 2010 and the metas keep changing, it might sound stupid but just knowing how to effectively use calf kicks gives today’s fighters a huge advantage over the old-school dogs.

Take Conor’s fight with Poirier as an example. He was winning boxing exchanges, but those calf kicks completely threw him off, and pretty much lost him the fight. He admitted he’d never experienced being kicked in the calf, and it showed.

And this is just one of them, there are others like significant increases in volume striking, advancement in cage grappling and counter cage grappling, exploiting the back takes, and others. You can probably list many of them just in grappling alone, but admittedly it's not that applicable in most of these matchups.

 

[El Fernas]

Not the best picker here.

Mir
Alves
Silva
Pereira
Henderson
Omalley
Evloev
Shogun
Nogueira
JDS

 

[AmonTobin]

One of my all time fav topics is matching up fighters from the past to the current. And fights that no one has really thought of or talked about. With that said, who wins these 10 fights ?? And how do you like these fights??

Frank Mir 2009 vs Jailton Almeida
Thiago Alves 2009 vs Jack Della
Thiago Silva 2011 vs Khalil Rountree Jr
Rampage Jackson 2007 vs Alex Perreira
Ben Henderson 2012 vs Arman Tsarukyan
Renan Barao 2013 vs Sean Omalley
Ricardo Lamas 2014 vs Mosvar Evloev
Shogun Rua 2011 vs Jiri Prochazka
Rogerio Nogueira 2009 vs Magomed Ankalaev
JDS 2011 vs Sergey Pavovich

Mir
JDM
Roundtree
Pereira? Wrestling vs leg kicks?
Rampage had a thick skull and granite chin but those legs would be susceptible. Pereira might chop those legs out from under him but rampage also had the wrestling. If wandy could stop him I don’t see why Alex couldn’t.
Bendo-Tsarukyan? An interesting puzzle. Tdarukyan on points. Bendo would be tough to put away.
O’Malley
Evloev
Shogun
Nogueira
JDS
Nice fantasy matchmaking. Cheers

 

[Ibm]

One of my all time fav topics is matching up fighters from the past to the current. And fights that no one has really thought of or talked about. With that said, who wins these 10 fights ?? And how do you like these fights??

Frank Mir 2009 vs Jailton Almeida
Thiago Alves 2009 vs Jack Della
Thiago Silva 2011 vs Khalil Rountree Jr
Rampage Jackson 2007 vs Alex Perreira
Ben Henderson 2012 vs Arman Tsarukyan
Renan Barao 2013 vs Sean Omalley
Ricardo Lamas 2014 vs Mosvar Evloev
Shogun Rua 2011 vs Jiri Prochazka
Rogerio Nogueira 2009 vs Magomed Ankalaev
JDS 2011 vs Sergey Pavovich

Mir
Alves
Rountree
Alex
Benson
no idea
no idea
Jiri
Ankalaev
JDS

 

[cold_spring_harbor]

One of my all time fav topics is matching up fighters from the past to the current. And fights that no one has really thought of or talked about. With that said, who wins these 10 fights ?? And how do you like these fights??

Frank Mir 2009✓ vs Jailton Almeida
Thiago Alves 2009 vs Jack Della✓
Thiago Silva 2011 vs Khalil Rountree Jr✓
Rampage Jackson 2007 vs Alex Perreira✓
Ben Henderson 2012 vs Arman Tsarukyan✓
Renan Barao 2013 vs Sean Omalley✓
Ricardo Lamas 2014 vs Mosvar Evloev✓
Shogun Rua 2011✓ vs Jiri Prochazka
Rogerio Nogueira 2009 ✓vs Magomed Ankalaev
JDS 2011 ✓vs Sergey Pavovich

 

[BEATDOWNS]

One of my all time fav topics is matching up fighters from the past to the current. And fights that no one has really thought of or talked about. With that said, who wins these 10 fights ?? And how do you like these fights??

Frank Mir 2009 vs Jailton Almeida
Thiago Alves 2009 vs Jack Della
Thiago Silva 2011 vs Khalil Rountree Jr
Rampage Jackson 2007 vs Alex Perreira
Ben Henderson 2012 vs Arman Tsarukyan
Renan Barao 2013 vs Sean Omalley
Ricardo Lamas 2014 vs Mosvar Evloev
Shogun Rua 2011 vs Jiri Prochazka
Rogerio Nogueira 2009 vs Magomed Ankalaev
JDS 2011 vs Sergey Pavovich

Frank Mir 2009 vs Jailton Almeida
Thiago Alves 2009 vs Jack Della
Thiago Silva 2011 vs Khalil Rountree Jr
Rampage Jackson 2007 vs Alex Perreira
Ben Henderson 2012 vs Arman Tsarukyan
Renan Barao 2013 vs Sean Omalley
Ricardo Lamas 2014 vs Mosvar Evloev
Shogun Rua 2011 vs Jiri Prochazka
Rogerio Nogueira 2009 vs Magomed Ankalaev
JDS 2011 vs Sergey Pavovich

50/50 between old school and new school.

 

[JKS]

Frank Mir 2009 vs Jailton Almeida
Thiago Alves 2009 vs Jack Della
Thiago Silva 2011 vs Khalil Rountree Jr
Rampage Jackson 2007 vs Alex Perreira
Ben Henderson 2012 vs Arman Tsarukyan
Renan Barao 2013 vs Sean Omalley
Ricardo Lamas 2014 vs Mosvar Evloev
Shogun Rua 2011 vs Jiri Prochazka
Rogerio Nogueira 2009 vs Magomed Ankalaev
JDS 2011 vs Sergey Pavovich

50/50 between old school and new school.

Good picks! I like Rua, JDS and Rogerio. Glad you went that way

 

[HHJ]

Shogun Rua 2011 vs Jiri Prochazka

Jiri

I think Shogun's propensity to brawl will get him caught by something Jiri just invented on the spot.

 

[joy2day]

These fantasy matchups almost always favor modern fighters because the sport has evolved so much since 2009 or 2010

With the exception of HW and LHW? Oh wait, GSP beats the WW champ, Anderson beats the MW champ of today.

Never mind with the evolution, that's not even in the ballpark of being true.

You have better mid to low level fighters at the lower weights, but the best fighters aren't any better than they once were overall.

 

[stevenandrew]

One of my all time fav topics is matching up fighters from the past to the current. And fights that no one has really thought of or talked about. With that said, who wins these 10 fights ?? And how do you like these fights??

Frank Mir 2009 vs Jailton Almeida
Thiago Alves 2009 vs Jack Della
Thiago Silva 2011 vs Khalil Rountree Jr
Rampage Jackson 2007 vs Alex Perreira
Ben Henderson 2012 vs Arman Tsarukyan
Renan Barao 2013 vs Sean Omalley
Ricardo Lamas 2014 vs Mosvar Evloev
Shogun Rua 2011 vs Jiri Prochazka
Rogerio Nogueira 2009 vs Magomed Ankalaev
JDS 2011 vs Sergey Pavovich . Sony VPCL2190X Quick Start Guide online

Jailton Almeida would win against Frank Mir 2009. Thiago Alves 2009 would defeat Jack Della. Khalil Rountree Jr. would get the better of Thiago Silva 2011. Alex Pereira would beat Rampage Jackson 2007. Ben Henderson 2012 would outwork Arman Tsarukyan. Sean O'Malley would win against Renan Barao 2013. Movsar Evloev would overcome Ricardo Lamas 2014. Jiri Prochazka would defeat Shogun Rua 2011. Magomed Ankalaev would beat Rogerio Nogueira 2009. Sergey Pavlovich would take the win over Junior dos Santos 2011.

 

[Pierce 34]

I love these kinds of threads.

Mir vs Almeida- very interesting one. Jailton clearly has a huge wrestling advantage, and he could get on top and try to control Mir. He doesn't have very dangerous ground and pound though, and Mir had a great guard when he wasn't being made to eat shots off of his back. Mir could very well take a limb home with him in this one.

Alves vs JDM- Alves was a beast striker in his prime, but never a ohenominal boxer, I think JDM pieces him up with his hands, while Alves tries to take out Jack's legs with low kicks. I'd probably pick JDM in a close decision or late finish when Thiago slows down.

Thiago Silva vs Khalil Rountree- Rountree is probably the more refined striker, but prime Silva was just a battering ram. I think he'd probably look to take Khalil down and brutalise him from the mount, and that's what I think would happen. Silva KO via gnp.

Rampage vs Poatan- All I can see when I picture this fight is Rampage vs Forrest but worse. Poatan would eat that lead leg alive. Probably stops Rampage with low kicks.

Bendo vs Arman- I see this being an entertaining grapple heavy fight filled with scrambles similar to the Arman/Gamrot fight. Prime Benson never slowed down and he was a tank physically too. Knowing his track record I'd say Bendo by split decision.

Barao vs O'Malley- This is a tough one. I think everybody underestimates O'Malley, and he had the precision to tag Barao repeatedly. However I think prime Barao had everything in his arsenal. Not sure about a finish but I'd say Barao by decision by mixing in the striking and groundwork. Probably has to survive being hurt along the way.


Lamas vs Evloev- I think this one is pretty simple. Lamas often gave up takedowns to drop for the guillotine. I see Evloev exploiting that to repeatedly put Lamas on his back. Working to free himself from chokes, having a few close calls, then controlling him on the ground to close decision. Evloev wins.

Shogun vs Jiri- interesting, but imo Jiri was too wild and Shogun was better everywhere. Iron chin in his prime, athletic and diverse striking attacks, KO power. I think Shogun by K0.

Lil Nog vs Ankalaev- The only thing that makes this interesting is Ankalaev's negative fight IQ. If he keeps it standing he easily outpoints Nog from the outside with his boxing. If he takes him down and plays in his guard, I think he gets caught in a sub. The issue is Ankalaev is prone to doing something exactly like that once in a while.

JDS vs Pavlovich- I think prime JDS is comfortably the better boxer between these two, but he always struggled with straight shots down the middle, and they just so happen to be some of Pav's best punches. From his jab that he rocks HWs to their core with, to his rear shovel uppercut. I think he has the tools to hurt JDS. That being said, JDS was lighter and more mobile while still carrying true HW power. Really tough one to call. Slightly favour JDS but wouldn't at all be surprised if Pav got him either.

After seeing Pav lose to Volkov, I can see JDS winning like that. Pav shouldn't have lost to volkov like that, first decent striker he fights after clobbering brawlers like Tai and Black beast

 

[BowserJr]

One of my all time fav topics is matching up fighters from the past to the current. And fights that no one has really thought of or talked about. With that said, who wins these 10 fights ?? And how do you like these fights??

Frank Mir 2009 vs Jailton Almeida
Thiago Alves 2009 vs Jack Della
Thiago Silva 2011 vs Khalil Rountree Jr
Rampage Jackson 2007 vs Alex Perreira
Ben Henderson 2012 vs Arman Tsarukyan
Renan Barao 2013 vs Sean Omalley
Ricardo Lamas 2014 vs Mosvar Evloev
Shogun Rua 2011 vs Jiri Prochazka
Rogerio Nogueira 2009 vs Magomed Ankalaev
JDS 2011 vs Sergey Pavovich

Mir (better everywhere and bigger, tko)
Della (good chin likely lands a hard combo early)
Khalil (silva too hittable and Khalil hits hard)
Rampage (goat level chin, wins via grappling/dirty boxing)
Bendo/Arman 50/50
Omalley (omalley reach advantage and Renan not a god chin)
Evloev (better grappler)
Shogun (better grappler w/good enough striking, wins via sub)
Lil Nog (better everywhere)
JDS (better everywhere)

 

[JKS]

Mir (better everywhere and bigger, tko)
Della (good chin likely lands a hard combo early)
Khalil (silva too hittable and Khalil hits hard)
Rampage (goat level chin, wins via grappling/dirty boxing)
Bendo/Arman 50/50
Omalley (omalley reach advantage and Renan not a god chin)
Evloev (better grappler)
Shogun (better grappler w/good enough striking, wins via sub)
Lil Nog (better everywhere)
JDS (better everywhere)

Nice!