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Atheists can be obnoxious, but to this point, no, you're wrong, it's not bullshit, I think they are justified. They do approach it more rationally. They attempt to use logic.Sure, I guess... like you said, that's the world we know.
Either way the correct answer is that we have no idea, and I'm fine with admitting that I don't know one way or the other.
What bothers me is the people who speak about it with certainty. The religious zealots are definitely guilty of this, but if I'm honest the atheist types bother me even more because they pretend to come at it from some more rational angle which at the end of the day is just as bullshit. At least the religious types call it faith, so it's more like "I don't have scientific proof for you but this is what I believe". The atheist pretends to have science on his side, but at the end of the day he has zero evidence to disprove any of it, yet it doesn't stop him from being smug and talking down to those who believe in a creator as if he's somehow intellectually superior.
For example, think about what we just discussed: the uncreated creator vs. the uncreated universe. I have only opined that I believe it is equally likely that either spontaneously existed out of nothing. Because I have no way of quantifying that in any respect: materially or logically. It doesn't happen in our universe. We've never observed it. So I throw my hands up, and say, "Sure, equally likely." Seems fair in an absence of any way to weight which is more likely.
Yet, perhaps you've overlooked a simple reality. There is no evidence upon which we all agree that an uncreated God exists. Yet it is manifest that the universe exists. Was it uncreated? We don't know. But we know it exists.
So, while the mode of how it entered existence may be equally likely as God, the likelihood that it exists is infinitely more likely as we may qualify it (1 vs. a factor of 0). And from there we can break out of our natural logical tendency to assign effect to cause. Because the truth is we don't know the true origin of the universe. The Big Bang is perhaps the most misunderstood theory of all time in that it doesn't explain how something came from nothing; rather, it only traces cause and effect backwards to the earliest point, the Big Bang singularity, at which stage our understanding fails to resolve that which we don't understand.
Because perhaps our universe sprung from another that already existed. And that one from another before it. On and on it goes. This leads us to consider: perhaps there was always something. Our need to believe in creation mirrors our own intuitive desire to project how we as individuals came into the universe. We didn't exist, our parents created us, then we existed. But we are not matter itself. We are only made of it. We are merely a rearrangement of matter.
And towards this concept, an uncreated universe, the fact that the universe undeniably exists, while an uncreated God does not, is rational evidence towards the greater likelihood that the uncreated universe is the more likely of the two theories.