Out of the current boxers who has the best chance to crack the top 10 of all-time boxers?

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Or even top 5 if you had to say. Base on their current accomplishments and potential accomplishments in the future.

Usyk? Inoue?
 
Top 10 all-time P4P? None of them. Top 10 all-time in their division? We already have several of those guys now. Canelo at SMW and Usyk at CW for example.
 
individual divisions is a struggle too, most of the best decorated current boxers have been jumping weights and limiting their potential to make an impact in their all time weight class standing. But you really can’t ask an Inoue for example to just blast overmatched cans in a division he’s outgrown forever.
 
borntoloseNOT said:
individual divisions is a struggle too, most of the best decorated current boxers have been jumping weights and limiting their potential to make an impact in their all time weight class standing. But you really can’t ask an Inoue for example to just blast overmatched cans in a division he’s outgrown forever.
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Yeah all of that jumping around means that a fighter will spread out their body of work over multiple divisions. Had they just stayed put and campaigned at a single weight they might end up being a divisional ATG. If a fighter wants to move around then they should invest a little in a historically weaker weight class like SMW or CW. It's much easier to become a Top 10 ATG in those tweener divisions.
 
Fair enough guys, thanks for your insightful responses so far.
 
Blastbeat said:
Usyk was undisputed at cruiserweight
Now undisputed at heavyweight
That's ATG shit, no denying it. Seethe all you want

And he's not fighting bums like Berlanga.
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Yeah, and he did this while remaining undefeated. The only other fighter in history that was undisputed in both of those divisions was Holyfield. Obviously Holyfield's overall body of work at heavyweight is far deeper than Usyk's, since he fought there for such a long time and in a stronger era, but he never actually managed to clean out the heavyweight division at any point. Usyk did.

I think fans sometimes forget that Holyfield only had to beat Buster Douglas to become undisputed at heavyweight. He never had to unify any of the titles on the path to it. All 3 titles he won in a single fight against a one-hit wonder.
 
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Mujeriego said:
Canelo.
Thats it.
No ones gonna say a guy thats 22-0 and is 37 years old, is one of the greatest of all time.
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Where would you rank Canelo right now in the all-time list?
 
Canelo is a great fighter and all, blatant ducks notwithstanding, but he's not even the greatest Mexican fighter in history nevermind a Top 10 ATG regardless of weight class. Sanchez & Chavez both rate higher and that's only to list a couple of them. Certain fighters of that caliber, like Emile Griffith, have as many as 50 Top 10 wins in their career. They have very deep resumes that often include several HOFers and other ATGs on them in addition to the usual contenders & titlists.

Meanwhile half of Canelo's resume consists of regional level fighters. He took about 35 developmental fights before he even stepped up to world level. Part of this is because Canelo turned pro so young at 15. He didn't have an extensive amateur career like most Mexicans. The other reason, which is obvious, is that his handlers wanted him to pad his record to fool gullible people that don't know boxing.
 
YourBoss said:
1.Usyk 2.Canelo 3.Inoue 4.Crawford

But Inoue and Crawford have a chance to catch up to Canelo unless Canelo fights and beats Benavidez.
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Inoue I think is already there, two division undisputed champ. Do you think it's because of the smaller division he fights in that people don't give him as much credit?

Crawford should be already there too but he fights very infrequently. I think his legacy will be debated by boxing fans for a long time. Has the hardware and the win streak, but against not so great opposition at times.
 
Kovalev's "Man Bag" said:
Canelo is a great fighter and all, blatant ducks notwithstanding, but he's not even the greatest Mexican fighter in history nevermind a Top 10 ATG regardless of weight class. Sanchez & Chavez both rate higher and that's only to list a couple of them. Certain fighters of that caliber, like Emile Griffith, have as many as 50 Top 10 wins in their career. They have very deep resumes that often include several HOFers and other ATGs on them in addition to the usual contenders & titlists.

Meanwhile half of Canelo's resume consists of regional level fighters. He took about 35 developmental fights before he even stepped up to world level. Part of this is because Canelo turned pro so young at 15. He didn't have an extensive amateur career like most Mexicans. The other reason, which is obvious, is that his handlers wanted him to pad his record to fool gullible people that don't know boxing.
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Even with the ducks I still feel that Canelo can rank in the top 10-15 or so Mexican boxers. He has some weakness to his resume but unifying all of the SMW titles within a year was very impressive. Beat some damn solid fighters to do it too. Gotta see how the rest of his career shakes out.
My favorite Mexican boxer to watch is Finito Lopez. That man had skills and technique smoother than a freshly waxed floor.
 
Blastbeat said:
Even with the ducks I still feel that Canelo can rank in the top 10-15 or so Mexican boxers. He has some weakness to his resume but unifying all of the SMW titles within a year was very impressive. Beat some damn solid fighters to do it too. Gotta see how the rest of his career shakes out.
My favorite Mexican boxer to watch is Finito Lopez. That man had skills and technique smoother than a freshly waxed floor.
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I have no objection to anyone rating Canelo a Top 10/15 Mexican fighter. Just not Top 10 all-time (P4P). Even the most accomplished Mexicans don't make the list. It's dominated almost entirely by American old-timers with the occasional modern fighter popping up like Floyd & Pac. Pac is the only non-American fighter that made Ring Magazine's list the last time they published an update.

Canelo unified the SMW division in like 11 months but he also blatantly avoided Benavidez. He still refuses to fight him. That's his chief rival at the weight. So, is he really 'undisputed'? Given that a large percentage of the public believes that Benavidez can beat him, myself included, calling him genuinely undisputed is a reach. You're supposed to beat all of the elite fighters in your division on the way to becoming undisputed. Clean out all of the top guys. Canelo is only undisputed* at SMW on paper.
 
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