Law Oregon is the 1st State to Decriminalized ALL DRUGS

[method115]

I love the logic from people who support this. Yeah let's stop wasting money putting them in jail, and let's start wasting money trying to rehab people who don't want to be rehabilitated. And what if it becomes an endless cycle of in and out of rehab for the rest of their lives? I don't see the difference. Either way tax payers are paying for it.

Yea your logic is great because you’ve already decided this won’t work with nothing but your own assUmptions. How is that logic any better? The worst part is these laws don’t just punish addicts. They punish normal people who use drugs but aren’t addicts and just want to have fun. It’s not just about tax dollars. Either way this isn’t working so why not try something new? Worst comes to worst it doesn’t work and they can reverse the laws. The war on drugs is a massive waste of money. I guarantee we can setup rehab centers for much cheaper.

 

[Hatorade]

Bro, oregon is THE west coast state for heroin and you're trying to say meth is the problem. Shut up

Meth is the biggest problem in Oregon by a huge margin. Heroin is a Portland thing. Meth is a state wide epidemic in Oregon, and it's particularly awful in coastal Oregon within the fishing and logging industries. Towns like Coos Bay, Newport, or Astoria have horrendous meth problems.

You've probably don't even live in Oregon....smh

 

[Hatorade]

This is a good thing. Getting rid of ignorance and fear around drugs will help society form more appropriate public policy.

The VAST majority of drug users are functional, productive members of society. Its time to stop vilifying and criminalizing people who are doing no harm to others.

The theft in this state is fucking jaw dropping.
You can't really responsibly use drugs like Meth an heroine. Meth has damn near a 100% criminality rate attached to it. Look that shit up.

 

[mmafan2000]

https://news.yahoo.com/oregon-law-decriminalize-drugs-goes-080103475.html



The law begins today Feb 1.

More people will do drugs since there's no threat of jail which will result in more deaths and accidents.

Are you for it or against it?

I am not sure. For if crime and violence will go down. Also for if dealers will be out of business overnight. Against if drug use will spike and there is no treatment centers.

 

[HockeyBjj]

https://www.kxl.com/sharp-increase-in-fatal-overdoses-in-king-county/

who could have possibly predicted this spike

Legalization didn’t happen until Feb 1st. This article is about late December and early January


Public Health Seattle & King County said Thursday that from Dec. 27 to Jan. 9, the King County Medical Examiner’s Office identified 42 suspected or confirmed overdoses.

Officials say that is the highest number of overdoses recorded in a two-week period in King County.

Who could have possibly predicted @nhbbear jumping to conclusions and not even reading his own article he shared?

 

[nhbbear]

Legalization didn’t happen until Feb 1st. This article is about late December and early January


Public Health Seattle & King County said Thursday that from Dec. 27 to Jan. 9, the King County Medical Examiner’s Office identified 42 suspected or confirmed overdoses.

Officials say that is the highest number of overdoses recorded in a two-week period in King County.

Who could have possibly predicted @nhbbear jumping to conclusions and not even reading his own article he shared?

I consider anything post election results to be part of this valid discussion. When something gets decriminalized, it basically means most cops simply stop enforcing the laws whether it is official or unofficial. Sure, some cops would fuck with people being assholes and arrest them until the deadline, but most cops would simply say “fuck it” throw their arms in the air and hope that things get real bad so they can say they told you this was a terrible idea. I can even see cops backing off of everything because “crimes aren’t crimes anymore/crimes are not illegal” thinking by the politicians and for coddling to junkies at the expense of the quality of life for normal people who now get to stare at even more junkies begging them for change or breaking into their vehicles or worse. Personally, I believe that addiction falls into the mental health/disease section, but simply doing nothing and taking away cops’ abilities to do anything will make the issue much worse.

Come on, tell me you really believe that people were actually waiting for 2/1 to use. Odds are, they were using already, but decriminalizing will increase the number of overall users new to drugs and will increase the rate of progression of the casual user afraid of arrest to becoming a constant user.

 

[86'd]

I'm pretty sure people continue to use meth because it's incredibly addictive, not because there is stigma of prior incarceration.

Of course.

However when you do not give addicts a true chance at redemption and put them in a hole that looks unobtainable to climb out of, the temptation to stay in your hole and relapse is a greater force