RBR ***Official*** Sherdog Sanctioned Tank vs. Roach 3/1 8PM ET (Prime)

[Phisher]

I've seen people spamming this.

What is the source?

The actual NYSAC rules simply state that if the fighter falls to the ground, they should start the count.

https://dos.ny.gov/system/files/documents/2018/09/19-nycrr-parts-206-214.pdf

 

[Phisher]

Why would it take 9 rounds for it to affect him? And it's not like the sweating stopped, the grease would've still been there so why didn't it continue to affect him after? It's a bullshit excuse.

The woman who did his hair says that he's full of shit.

 

[Tatra]

Exactly. I like Amanda Serrano but she's just throwing him a life raft here.

And another thing: why wasn't he complaining to his corner between rounds? We should've heard him panicking 'fuck, I can't see, my eyes are burning!' if what Amanda said is true about it burning her eyes so bad she had to cancel a fight.

 

[Kovalev's "Man Bag"]

And another thing: why wasn't he complaining to his corner between rounds? We should've heard him panicking 'fuck, I can't see, my eyes are burning!' if what Amanda said is true about it burning her eyes so bad she had to cancel a fight.

Right. It's just a bullshit excuse. His own hair stylist just shot it down lol. One of Roach's punches hit him in the eye and he took a knee after a delayed reaction. That's a knockdown.

 

[Roids]

Ok I just rescored the fight. I had it 8-4 to Roach but I could see 7-5 also. A few rounds were swings, especially the 9th. I gave Roach the last 6 rounds.

Regarding the knee. Most of the short clips show a jab brushing Tanks face before he took the knee, but a few seconds before that he ate a right hook, that he partially rolled with, but it still connected. I think that is the punch that buzzed him a bit, which is why he took a knee, in a delayed reaction. Then he was cunning enough to play it off as something in his eye.

 

[Dr Fong]

On the heavies it's a meme that Brazilian MMA fighters are constantly coming up with ridiculous excuses, but in reality the undisputed kings of it are American boxers.

'Hair grease from 3 days ago' will take its place just below 'heavy costume' on the excuses podium.

 

[pugilistico]

They can't allow this. If this kind of shit gets allowed in boxing we might as well watch soccer.
We can't have fighters taking a knee every time they want a little break. You can't let them walk to their corner in the middle of the round. Why not just give them water breaks in the middle of a round? Might as well just sit on your ass. "I had to scratch my ass ref."

 

[pugilistico]

i'm not even sure if the knee was the refs fault, sure he made a mistake, but why arent the judges scoring it regardless as he started counting?

Judges aren't allowed to do that. A judge can't decide take a point away or decide what's a slip or KD.

 

[Kovalev's "Man Bag"]

i'm not even sure if the knee was the refs fault, sure he made a mistake, but why arent the judges scoring it regardless as he started counting?

The judges didn't score it as a knockdown because it was only initially treated as such. Moments later the ref stopped counting and voided it altogether. There was also no point taken from Tank for receiving outside assistance from his corner during the fight. The ref let him off scot-free hence the controversy.

 

[sanguinius]

On the heavies it's a meme that Brazilian MMA fighters are constantly coming up with ridiculous excuses, but in reality the undisputed kings of it are American boxers.

'Hair grease from 3 days ago' will take its place just below 'heavy costume' on the excuses podium.

I forgot all about that heavy costume excuse. How ridiculous that was, it was honestly hilarious.

 

[Kovalev's "Man Bag"]

On the heavies it's a meme that Brazilian MMA fighters are constantly coming up with ridiculous excuses, but in reality the undisputed kings of it are American boxers.

'Hair grease from 3 days ago' will take its place just below 'heavy costume' on the excuses podium.

American boxers have a ways to go yet

 

[Superzorro]

If that had been Roach taking the knee and turning his back Ref would have ruled it a TKO

The only real issue was the ref not knowing what was going on when Tank took the knee.

If Roaches corner got on the apron and tended to him in any kind of way without the referee calling them up, he would have been disqualified.

 

[Superzorro]

Right. It's just a bullshit excuse. His own hair stylist just shot it down lol. One of Roach's punches hit him in the eye and he took a knee after a delayed reaction. That's a knockdown.

It’s clear as day to me that Davis was just frustrated. He was having a melt down. Roach wasn’t reacting to his shots in the way that people are supposed to. Roach wasn’t intimidated and he wasn’t letting the talk and Tank’s dirty tactics get to him. A lot of Tank’s good opponents are so weight drained that once he decides to turn it on after tiring them out, they typically lose focus and fold.

 

[Superzorro]

Tank underperformed.

You know boxing fans man.

Every close fight that goes to the other guy is a "robbery."

So, I agree with you in terms of the scoring.we can get that out of the way

But I would just asterisk that the ref blown call is not some insignificant or even understandable mistake. That was just a blatant disregard of the rules, a choice to not enforce a rule we all know on a thing we all saw, and it favored the big name guy, shocker. And if that was handled correctly (all else remaining the same) the outcome would not be a draw.

So, all thing considered, I think people have a right to be upset, and I agree that it is misplaced to claim robbery via judging, but I guess I think it is reasonable to perhaps claim "robbery" via ref favorable treatment, or at least to assert that the ref changed the outcome of the fight with a highly questionable choice.

No, it’s not the same. Tank wasn’t throwing any punches. If you swap the fighters and their performances, I guarantee you they would have given Tank a landslide decision. Forget the knockdown, they would have given him every single round guaranteed.

It’s the same as the Garcia vs Haney fight. If the beating that Garcia put on Haney is a majority decision, what could a unanimous decision possibly look like?

But yeah, I’m honestly tired of talking about it. It is what it is. They’re going to keep letting these guys get away with it. I understand why a lot of them go into fights for checks. Because even when you do win, it’s like required you have to get a knock out. They were giving Tank rounds where he didn’t do anything but get hit and outworked.

 

[Superzorro]

I forgot all about that heavy costume excuse. How ridiculous that was, it was honestly hilarious.

The funny thing about that is, there’s zero evidence of Wilder ever saying it— no video, nothing. A reporter wrote an article immediately after the fight of having heard Wilder say it while talking to him back stage (after being concussed). Wilder did not put that statement out to the press. Fans just ran with it because for years they had been looking for a legitimate reason to hate the guy. Apparently Americans thought a Brit being recovering crack addict was more relatable than one of their own starting boxing at eighteen to support their disabled daughter, winning bronze at the Olympics and becoming a world champion.

 

[sanguinius]

The funny thing about that is, there’s zero evidence of Wilder ever saying it— no video, nothing. A reporter wrote an article immediately after the fight of having heard Wilder say it while talking to him back stage (after being concussed). Wilder did not put that statement out to the press. Fans just ran with it because for years they had been looking for a legitimate reason to hate the guy. Apparently Americans thought a Brit being recovering crack addict was more relatable than one of their own starting boxing at eighteen to support their disabled daughter, winning bronze at the Olympics and becoming a world champion.

I think Wilder put out enough statements that are damning that you can't hate people for believing other nonsensical things he said. I get what you are trying to say and it is silly. Get better.

 

[sanguinius]

The funny thing about that is, there’s zero evidence of Wilder ever saying it— no video, nothing. A reporter wrote an article immediately after the fight of having heard Wilder say it while talking to him back stage (after being concussed). Wilder did not put that statement out to the press. Fans just ran with it because for years they had been looking for a legitimate reason to hate the guy. Apparently Americans thought a Brit being recovering crack addict was more relatable than one of their own starting boxing at eighteen to support their disabled daughter, winning bronze at the Olympics and becoming a world champion.

Wilder confirms Fury III, rues 40-pound costume

Former heavyweight world titlist Deontay Wilder said he will "definitely" exercise his right to an immediate third fight with Tyson Fury, even while he bemoaned the fatiguing effects of the elaborate outfit he wore on his ring walk.

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Wait, what the hell are you even talking about?

 

[Kovalev's "Man Bag"]

It’s clear as day to me that Davis was just frustrated. He was having a melt down. Roach wasn’t reacting to his shots in the way that people are supposed to. Roach wasn’t intimidated and he wasn’t letting the talk and Tank’s dirty tactics get to him. A lot of Tank’s good opponents are so weight drained that once he decides to turn it on after tiring them out, they typically lose focus and fold.

No doubt. Tank looked very frustrated because this kid was not only taking his vaunted power he was beating him at his own game and countering the counterpuncher. All Roach had to do from there was hold his ground, put his stick on him, and catch & shoot when Tank overextended. He arguably won every round of the second half doing this and occasionally ripping him with a combo.

 

[randomg1t]

haven't managed to watch the fight yet, but that knee was hilarious.

what the fuck kind of clown show allows him to just call his own timeout? even if he did have grease in his eyes, he needs to either deal with it or lose a point.

i remember years ago someone's shoes got fucked up and the sole of the shoe came off completely. they couldn't do shit. didn't have extra shoes to switch between rounds, didn't even stop the action to see what's going on. fight on, or lose. it's an unforgiving rule, but it's been that way since fucking ever.

tank pulling off this stunt and acting as if it's perfectly fine is infuriating. dude dropped to a knee, turned away from his opponent, ran to his corner to get wiped down, then bullshit his way out of a knockdown because the ref is incompetent. that's like 3 different infractions, lol.

 

[Goat Poster]

I've seen people spamming this.

What is the source?

The actual NYSAC rules simply state that if the fighter falls to the ground, they should start the count.


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https://dos.ny.gov/system/files/documents/2018/09/19-nycrr-parts-206-214.pdf

It was a twitter post with thousands of likes in which I breezed through replies and no one was doubting it. Seemed legit.