RBR ***Official*** Sherdog Sanctioned Tank vs. Roach 3/1 8PM ET (Prime)

[jeff7b9]

If that had been Roach taking the knee and turning his back Ref would have ruled it a TKO

100% that at least it would have gotten a count.

 

[Goatenstein]

Adames last week and now Roach both getting completely screwed out of wins. Sickening. Boxing is more corrupt than ever.

 

[jeff7b9]

You're right, it was actually 9 of the rounds where Tank landed an = or greater number of power shots compared to Roach. and = amounts in 6 rounds.

Still sounds like a close fight to me.

Honestly the draw seems to be a fair score card based on the actionnof the fight and I don't have a problem with that

However...

When you factor in that the draw:

Protects the "0" of one of the biggest names in boxing right now.

and

That guy took a knee to stop the action of the fight, got a free timeout, no count, no point deduction

AND

was allowed to use the towel from his corner to wipe his face during the round.

That is inexcusable territory in my opinion.

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Last night boxing said:

"We will turn the other way and allow a big name fighter to cheat and pretend like it didn't happen rather than risk damaging the value of one of our assets."

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[Seano]

Honestly the draw seems to be a fair score card based on the actionnof the fight and I don't have a problem with that

However...

When you factor in that the draw:

Protects the "0" of one of the biggest names in boxing right now.

and

That guy took a knee to stop the action of the fight, got a free timeout, no count, no point deduction

AND

was allowed to use the towel from his corner to wipe his face during the round.

That is inexcusable territory in my opinion.

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Last night boxing said:

"We will turn the other way and allow a big name fighter to cheat and pretend like it didn't happen rather than risk damaging the value of one of our assets."

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The call out about the missed call by the ref is fine.

My issue is more with people who think Tank got dominated, even aside form the bad call by the ref.

 

[jeff7b9]

The call out about the missed call by the ref is fine.

My issue is more with people who think Tank got dominated, even aside form the bad call by the ref.

Tank underperformed.

You know boxing fans man.

Every close fight that goes to the other guy is a "robbery."

So, I agree with you in terms of the scoring.we can get that out of the way

But I would just asterisk that the ref blown call is not some insignificant or even understandable mistake. That was just a blatant disregard of the rules, a choice to not enforce a rule we all know on a thing we all saw, and it favored the big name guy, shocker. And if that was handled correctly (all else remaining the same) the outcome would not be a draw.

So, all thing considered, I think people have a right to be upset, and I agree that it is misplaced to claim robbery via judging, but I guess I think it is reasonable to perhaps claim "robbery" via ref favorable treatment, or at least to assert that the ref changed the outcome of the fight with a highly questionable choice.

 

[borntoloseNOT]

Everyone thinks I sound a bit drastic after fights, but this one is causing my brain to twitch, a fighter stops the action, turns his back, runs to the corner, sticks his head outside the ring through the ropes, did he grab the foreign object himself or did someone do the wipe for him? I don’t understand how that flies other than “he’s the A side”, what weird circumstances,

I’m sorry, this is why I should ref all fights

 

[Goat Poster]

 

[treelo]

not sure where that i from, but looks like some AI bullshit

 

[treelo]

just heard him talking after the fight, hopefully it wasnt real but did he just say he got his hair done and the grease they applied on his hair ran into his eyes?

hopefully that isnt real

 

[Boxiana]

just heard him talking after the fight, hopefully it wasnt real but did he just say he got his hair done and the grease they applied on his hair ran into his eyes?

hopefully that isnt real

Would make total sense. He was shouting about towels in the corner.

 

[Roids]

the argument ''almost everyone thought'' for boxing is a logical falacy

Boxing scoring is subjective so if 99% of people scored it for fighter A, it makes it far more likely fighter A really won the fight. Its not 100% proof so its not a fallacy to use it as probability Roach won.

 

[Roids]

This wasn't really a robbery. It was just close and had the ref misfiring on that knee. I agree the ref made the wrong call .

Tank landed the same or more power shots than Roach 8 of the 12 rounds, and landed the exact same number of punches in 8 of the rounds. landed at a higher % too. The scores were a pretty accurate representation of what happened on the fight.

So you use compubox to score fights? That explains a lot.

 

[CatchnShoot]

As well as one official judge and one point off from the other 2. How'd you score it?

I had Roach by two points.

Either way, if you embrace the official scores, Roach definitely should have won ....if old google eyes had of done his job and taken a point from Tank for the knee.

 

[Seano]

I had Roach by two points.

Either way, if you embrace the official scores, Roach definitely should have won ....if old google eyes had of done his job and taken a point from Tank for the knee.

I really don't have any issue with anyone's score until they act shitty to me about mine. It was close, could have gone either way. I chose the more accurate, harder puncher.

 

[Doctor Grudge]

I had roach winning by a lot, thought he squeezed out most of those rounds. i thought it was pretty clear roach was controlling the pace, had more aggression, possibly landed more punches (i suppose the data would confirm that, but itd be close either way. Competitive fight, but I think Tank got a lot of benefit of the doubt.

Tank taking a knee for a down should have made it a no brainer. He lost this fight. The referee was really terrible, its not like Tank just said "ah my eye", he basically refereed his own fight. Never seen a boxer in a high profile fight just walk out the ropes like that to get a towel - what if Roach swarmed him while his back was turned? That would be a tko in my eyes much less a down.

 

[Roids]

I really don't have any issue with anyone's score until they act shitty to me about mine. It was close, could have gone either way. I chose the more accurate, harder puncher.

Roach rocked tank 3 times. Tank never rocked Roach once. Roach was the harder puncher in this fight. He threw more, landed more and hurt tank more.

 

[MMALOPEZ]

 

[Kovalev's "Man Bag"]

This wasn't really a robbery. It was just close and had the ref misfiring on that knee. I agree the ref made the wrong call .

Tank landed the same or more power shots than Roach 8 of the 12 rounds, and landed the exact same number of punches in 8 of the rounds. landed at a higher % too. The scores were a pretty accurate representation of what happened on the fight.

Regardless of what you label it Tank was lucky to get the draw. The consensus is that he should've lost. Even the fans in attendance at Barclays Center booed him and cheered for Roach. You're the only person I've seen that scored the fight for Tank. Fan scoring in general was pretty wide in favor of Roach and media scoring was also in Roach's favor with some draws in there (I've yet to see any well-known media outlets actually score it for Tank).

What makes this worse for Tank is that he doesn't want to run it back next. Actually, he doesn't believe a rematch will happen this year. That's a very bad look because he's the one that calls the shots. It's obvious he also realizes that he narrowly escaped what really should've been a loss on his record.

 

[Tatra]

Why would it take 9 rounds for it to affect him? And it's not like the sweating stopped, the grease would've still been there so why didn't it continue to affect him after? It's a bullshit excuse.

 

[Kovalev's "Man Bag"]

Why would it take 9 rounds for it to affect him? And it's not like the sweating stopped, the grease would've still been there so why didn't it continue to affect him after? It's a bullshit excuse.

Exactly. I like Amanda Serrano but she's just throwing him a life raft here.