Official Judo Thread VIII

[Mcmoon]

IMO, Tsurikomi Goshi (not SODE Tsurikomi Goshi) is just a training tool for getting your entry and hip placement for Uchi Mata and Harai Goshi. If you throw Harai Goshi with a HCG and a high elbow then that's how you should throw your Tsurikomi Goshi when practicing it, if you throw Harai with an over the back grip then that's how you should practice your Tsurikomi Goshi.

The only time you see Tsurikomi Goshi in shiai is when uke has gone flying before the reaping leg has entered.

I might need to get my coaches to check my tsurikomi goshi again. It seems like my hips are a little further across than they are on my harai's and uchimatas.

I actually don't think I have ever used tsurikomi goshi in randori but that is just how they explained it to me.

My training has been on the hold a lot the last few months other than a handful of classes. New year I hope to be able to go more and also may be getting a grappling dummy to practice my throws on in my off time. I thinking I may try and work through the gokyo with it. Maybe work on one throw a day and just work may way through and then start over or would it be more beneficial to do it another way?

 

[Ivaylo Ivanov]

They land on their faces because they spin out, or... ?

I've only ever hit one good one, myself. Probably because I never try it, and because I think it is the only throw I can think of that is so hard that I don't feel comfortable throwing it against unsuspecting people.

They try to defend it and fall face down.
Like it matters in randori
I use yoko otoshi or drop kataguruma on the same side as yoko gake very frequently, so I think it's just when I throw on my other side is when they have the time to react.

 

[QingTian]

I was taught to do tsurikomi goshi with the elbow in the armpit. I was told it was because it is the one you see in competition and hence more applicable. Is there any advantage to the original or textbook version which seems basically to be a straight arm? Also when I try to do it on left left side it is like I can't hold on to the lapel at all. Grip strength shouldn't be a problem and is probably a positioning issue. Any general tips that could help?

TKG can be used as a method to break an upright uke with your hip. Thus often you scoop from very low, and your tsurite arm goes near straight to hold uke off balance while you are low.

If you were able to pull uke off balance then you do not need to go so low.

Uchimata requires an uke that is bent, and harai goshi requires an uke pulled far forward. They can be used at different opportunities than TKG, with some overlap.

 

[Darkslide632]

yoko gake sucks because there's constant acceleration for uke. even if you're ready for the fall they usually bind up your gi or have hold of your wrists in such a manner that you can't make falling easier.

in almost every judo throw, you throw uke to the ground. in yoko gake, you hit uke WITH the ground.

I think of yoko gake as being kind of like snapping your fingers. All that tension gets built up, and then just releases and accelerates your body into the floor. I think getting hit with the floor is a pretty fitting description.

 

[Ivaylo Ivanov]

Well, happy New Year to the F12 judo community!
Raising a glass...
Damn, I miss been in the bar on NYE.

 

[Uchi Mata]

crack the champagne!

 

[Thai Otoshi]

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What's the name of the throw that Zantaraia starts demonstrating @ 2:56? It's like a super ko uchi.

Oh and happy New Year!

 

[Judo Thai Boxer]

Happy new year guys. Here's to a better year.

I'm thinking rather than deal with this hangover the right idea would be to get back on the gin and tonics.

Oh and it just looks like a cool kouchi gake variation to me Ippy. I plant my foot when I try it like that too but I've never hit it with that much power.

 

[RJ Green]

Drink a bloody Mary, its technically a fruit smoothie

 

[Thai Otoshi]

Oh and it just looks like a cool kouchi gake variation to me Ippy. I plant my foot when I try it like that too but I've never hit it with that much power.

That ko uchi looks relevant to my interests. He's even doing it lefty like moi.

My favorite throw may be a Riner tech, but outside of his version of uchi mata, Zantaraia is the judoka I try to emulate in style the most.

 

[Einarr]

New years resolution: win my 2nd degree black belt by batsugun.

 

[doyourkegles22]

New years resolution: win my 2nd degree black belt by batsugun.

Same

 

[Thai Otoshi]

Oh, batsugun isn't just for ikkyu>shodan?

 

[Judo Thai Boxer]

Same

Make that three, although we usually don't get enough first dans at regional gradings so I may have to settle for it from comps.

And no Ippy they have gradings up to like fourth dan or something I believe, just it's pretty hard from what I've heard. It's a hell of a lot easier to go up against multiple brown belts one after the other than multiple dan grades.

 

[RJ Green]

I resolve to take Onq up on that kodokan offer and batsugun for my shodan or nidan

 

[RJ Green]

Oh, batsugun isn't just for ikkyu>shodan?

Batsugun is how rank is supposed to work. I think the panel demo is something coopted from other TMAs.

 

[Einarr]

Oh, batsugun isn't just for ikkyu>shodan?

Nope. Batsugun up to 5th dan. 6th and 7th dan is honorary and awarded by the European Judo Union (if you're European, I don't know about 'Mrrrkns), 8-10th dan is honorary and awarded by the IJF.

 

[Einarr]

I resolve to take Onq up on that kodokan offer and batsugun for my shodan or nidan

You can jump straight to nidan? No doubt you've put your time in.

 

[RJ Green]

You can jump straight to nidan? No doubt you've put your time in.

line em up.

 

[Darkslide632]

My resolution for the past 15 years has been to get my nidan. The only problem is that I stopped giving a crap, haha.