Obvious reason why Cyborg gets more heat for her body transformation

[BuckNasty16]

funnily enough here is a thread on page 1 asking why she gets more shit than anyone else for her + tests.

which is it folks? does she get more shit, or less?

or if you tend to really dislike her, does you only see the posts dismissing them and think "aw man all these bleeding hearts....", and if you tend to give her slack all you see are posts saying "damn, how come everyone always bags on her more...."?

introspection time kids. because yes, you're most likely guilty of this confirmation bias too. can you admit?

I think you missed my opinion.

It's obvious that she gets more shit right now for her PED use, that's not really up for debate. I'm saying that she gets it because she keeps winning and beats the crap out of more normal looking women.
Yes Holly has a lot of muscle but she has been Cyborgs toughest test so far and he last number of opponents haven't looked like that. Not to mention Holly is a fan favorite.

It's not about liking her or disliking her. The thread is about why people keep bringing up her past PED use. People can't understand why since others have been busted.

The reason why is because she is so dominant.

 

[Only Here for Attachments]

She doesn't even look that different, IMO. More internet sperg hysteria

 

[BuckNasty16]

The entire point of having a female division is to handicap its participants from the effects of testosterone.

The men's division isn't really the "men's" division. It's the open division to find out who the best fighter in the world is at a certain size. I have no problem with PEDs in men's divisions but I have a huge problem with them in women's divisions.

Still unfair for men to use them now, but if you mean you don't have a problem with men using like Pride era I'm sure a lot of people agree with you.

That's a great point about the women's division

 

[lostdog000]

 

[High Altitude]

That pic on the beach says it all.

Cyborg is the poster child for all the permanent benefits and negative side effects that happen to females on steroids.

It was her choice to abuse all those steroids. You can't take all those steroids, add a bunch of male characteristics to your body and not expect any blow back.

 

[SalvadorAllende]

what's the of watching girls fight if they are roided to become men?

So it is better to watch some tadpole like TRTless Vitor? I want real men in there..

 

[Hester65]

I'm not sure what to conclude about you've said.

Is it "Therefore we should not test anyone", which is kinda of a reduction ad absurdum idea or,
is it "We should give the job of judging who is on steroids to Mr. Joe Sherdog User, which will take a look at the fighters' picture and decide whether is he/she on steroids or not", which is the same reductio ad absurdum, but on steroids.

Really, what's your solution then?

Create stiffer punishments when caught, freeze samples for retesting when the tests improve (olympic weightlifting medals have changed hand because of retesting), etc. You have to go at cheaters to catch the best of them.

The solution for who is right or wrong to say if they think an athlete is cheating is simple. People are free to speak their opinion. They must also understand there are still consequences for the words they use.

There is reason to suspect a lot of fighters of doping. That doesn’t mean you run around like a maniac calling them a cheater (happens here all the time). However, you can voice your concerns without coming off as a huge douche. The person you suspect will probably think you’re a douche, but that’s par for the course.

 

[Fungoose]

First seen Cyborg against Gina Carano. She was never anywhere near fuckable. But she's on her second husband since then, she must be very charming.

There was a video where she picked Aaron Tru up over her shoulder and yelled "mine". I have thought about that moment quite a bit. I like it...

Spoiler

SEXUALLY

 

[Ghostoftheville]

She's been busted more than once for roiding. In other words, nothing about her is legit. She's turned herself into a man to be the best. She should fight Fallon Fox next. It's the most fair fight for her.

Fallon was finished by Evans-Smith. She wouldn't be able to handle Cyborg either.

 

[Ghostoftheville]

Create stiffer punishments when caught, freeze samples for retesting when the tests improve (olympic weightlifting medals have changed hand because of retesting), etc. You have to go at cheaters to catch the best of them.

The solution for who is right or wrong to say if they think an athlete is cheating is simple. People are free to speak their opinion. They must also understand there are still consequences for the words they use.

There is reason to suspect a lot of fighters of doping. That doesn’t mean you run around like a maniac calling them a cheater (happens here all the time). However, you can voice your concerns without coming off as a huge douche. Well, the person you suspect will probably think you are a douche when you let them know their opinion but that’s par for the course.

As much as I have mocked Hunt for his whining post Lesnar beat down, I do believe he was onto something with attempting to sue both Lesnar and UFC. Expecting promotions to hold themselves to a higher standard isn't really working, take their money and your opponents money, win or lose, and you might see a change faster.

 

[idrankyourbeer]

i dont care how many times she wins or loses. shes a multiple time proven drug cheat. her record doesnt mean anything.

 

[BoxingFan653]

Whys everyone fighting over cyborg? This is the biggest non issue of 2018

 

[Noraaq]

Holly looks like more of a PED user than Cyborg but she's just a jacked white girl so deal with it

 

[Munnings242]

She talks just as much shit about others, too. If you choose to talk shit, you should be able to take it. She plays the victim too much.

Yea she got some sly shit going on telling fans the UFC ask.ed if she wants a fight with Megan when it's not true in Australia then make up a fake card to hype fans on false information that is fucked up shit

 

[uptheirons!]

First seen Cyborg against Gina Carano. She was never anywhere near fuckable. But she's on her second husband since then, she must be very charming.

Either that or she sucks a mean tubesteak and takes it up the wrong one.

 

[Lint]

Create stiffer punishments when caught, freeze samples for retesting when the tests improve (olympic weightlifting medals have changed hand because of retesting), etc. You have to go at cheaters to catch the best of them.

You know that argument still falls from the "Lance Armstrong fooled everybody", but the most important question is: If such terms were adopted, would you stop picking on Cyborg?

The solution for who is right or wrong to say if they think an athlete is cheating is simple. People are free to speak their opinion. They must also understand there are still consequences for the words they use.

No, we are not. We are not allowed to suggest that a fighter not caught in a PED bust is really on PEDs, even if he/she got caught in the past.
You're free to say that such fighter WAS a cheater, not IS a cheater.

This is a standard Sherdog rule, topics get removed and people get banned for quite less than that.

I for myself had a topic deleted a couple of months ago because I questioned how come people call Borrachina a PED abuser (with no proof whatsoever, once again, just by looks) and yet they're A-OK with GSP's physique. And as a son of a brazilian who was born in Canada this is a sincere, unbiased question.

There is reason to suspect a lot of fighters of doping. That doesn’t mean you run around like a maniac calling them a cheater (happens here all the time). However, you can voice your concerns without coming off as a huge douche. The person you suspect will probably think you’re a douche, but that’s par for the course.

There's total reason for that, and even if there wasn't there would still be of our best interest to discover so, but we have to have good faith on people and USADA tests, we don't have any better tests available right now, so people should come in peace with it. Last but not least, guilty until proven innocent is just a preposterous way of justice/society. But I wholeheartedly agree that everybody on UFC cheat, including Cyborg, Jones, DC, Khabib Numagumasomething, Silva, GSP, both Diaz'es, Ngannou, Mioc....... (And voice fades away)

 

[BJJ_Rage]

No she didn't, she and Holly Holm looked pretty much the same in body building.

Just look at it, stop being biased with this same old "she's on steroids" and take one minute, one minute only to look at Cyborg vs. Holm and measure only their physique.
Also she has been tested more than 10 times the last year, she even got tired of being tested as she was tested 3 times in a single month out-of-competition. If is there one clean fight in UFC right now it most certainly is Cyborg.

Before you all roar in rage and stuff I know, she got busted, shame on her, let's not use her error as an excuse to ours.

Holly has a big frame and good genetica, she has a very low bf % but no puffy muscles, and by the looks on her face, she’s not roiding... may be she could’ve been in Anavar/primo cycle before, impossible to say.... Cyborg looks like a tranny, she transformed her self into half man, There’s no way to denied that.

 

[BuckNasty16]

I for myself had a topic deleted a couple of months ago because I questioned how come people call Borrachina a PED abuser (with no proof whatsoever, once again, just by looks) and yet they're A-OK with GSP's physique.

Not true.
People talk about GSP being in illegal PEDs all the time.

 

[glenwo2]

It's because the basement-dwelling, nerdular Sherdoggers in her secretly lust for a real woman like Cyborg. However, they can't admit it because Cyborg's body type isn't pushed as the norm in society. Forced to attack what they admire, they reach for the steroid excuse.

That or people think it's bullshit that she gets to reap the benefits of years of steroid use. Could be either one.

Uhh...No. Just No.

 

[StoneWT]

Uhh...No. Just No.

Don't fight it. Embrace it. You're among fellow Sherdoggers.