Obama anti-Wahhabi frame of mind

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http://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...eign-policy-syria-jihadism-isis-a6927646.html

" How Barack Obama turned his back on Saudi Arabia and its Sunni allies"

" Commentators have missed the significance of President Barack Obama’s acerbic criticism of Saudi Arabia and Sunni states long allied to the US for fomenting sectarian hatred and seeking to lure the US into fighting regional wars on their behalf. In a series of lengthy interviews with Jeffrey Goldberg published in The Atlantic magazine, Mr Obama explains why it is not in the US’s interests to continue the tradition of the US foreign policy establishment, whose views he privately disdains, by giving automatic support to the Saudis and their allies.


Obama’s arguments are important because they are not off-the-cuff remarks, but are detailed, wide ranging, carefully considered and leading to new departures in US policy. The crucial turning point came on 30 August 2013 when he refused to launch air strikes in Syria. This would, in effect, have started military action by the US to force regime change in Damascus, a course of action proposed by much of the Obama cabinet as well by US foreign policy specialists.


Saudi Arabia, Turkey and the Gulf monarchies were briefly convinced that they would get their wish and the US was going to do their work for them by overthrowing President Bashar al-Assad. They claimed this would be easy to do, though it would have happened only if there had been a full-scale American intervention and it would have produced a power vacuum that would have been filled by fundamentalist Islamic movements as in Iraq, Afghanistan and Libya. Mr Goldberg says that by refusing to bomb Syria, Obama “broke with what he calls, derisively, ‘the Washington Playbook’. This was his liberation day”.


The US has been notoriously averse since 9/11 to put any blame on the Saudis for creating salafi-jihadism, at the core of which is Sunni sectarian hatred for the Shia and other variants of Islam in addition to repressive social mores, including the reduction of women to servile status. "


http://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...eign-policy-syria-jihadism-isis-a6927646.html

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Ofcourse a lot of rightwingers will be loathe to support Obama's stance on the Saudis and will turn Obama's disdain for the Saudis into something that is bad because more than anything it is important to attack Obama

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" President Obama is highly informed about the origins of al-Qa’ida and Islamic State, describing how Islam in Indonesia, where he spent part of his childhood, had become more intolerant and exclusive. Asked why this had occurred, Mr Obama is quoted as replying: “The Saudis and other Gulf Arabs have funnelled money, and large numbers of imams and teachers, into the country. In the 1990s, the Saudis heavily funded Wahhabist madrassas, seminaries that teach the fundamentalist version of Islam favoured by the Saudi ruling family.” The same shift towards the “Wahhabisation” of mainstream Sunni Islam is affecting the great majority of the 1.6 billion Muslims in the world who are Sunnis. "

Finally a President who call outs the Wahhabis..


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Saudis attack Obama

" Saudi prince: 'No, Mr. Obama — we are not "free riders" "

http://www.businessinsider.com/r-senior-saudi-prince-condemns-obama-comments-on-middle-east-2016-3
 
But Obama is a Saudi bitch, has he ever flown on a jet fighter and given speeches on flightsuits? i thought so.
 
Doesnt stop him from greenlighting discounted arm sales and having made in America hellfire missiles killing Yemen citizens.
 
But but but Obama is muzlimz!!11
 
Saudi Arabia Warns of Economic Fallout if Congress Passes 9/11 Bill
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/04/16/w...allout-if-congress-passes-9-11-bill.html?_r=0

WASHINGTON — Saudi Arabia has told the Obama administration and members of Congress that it will sell off hundreds of billions of dollars’ worth of American assets held by the kingdom if Congress passes a bill that would allow the Saudi government to be held responsible in American courts for any role in the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks.

The Obama administration has lobbied Congress to block the bill’s passage, according to administration officials and congressional aides from both parties, and the Saudi threats have been the subject of intense discussions in recent weeks between lawmakers and officials from the State Department and the Pentagon. The officials have warned senators of diplomatic and economic fallout from the legislation.


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Despite Atrocities, U.S. Approves $1.29 Billion Arms Sale to Saudi Arabia
http://www.truthdig.com/report/item/despite_atrocities_us_approves_129_billion_deal_20151117

The Pentagon announced on Monday that the U.S. has approved a $1.29 billion arms sale to Saudi Arabia, despite widespread mounting evidence of the country’s mass atrocities and possible war crimes in neighboring Yemen.

The U.S. State Department on Friday approved the sale of over 10,000 bombs, munitions, and weapons parts produced by Boeing and Raytheon. This includes 5,200 Paveway II “laser guided” and 12,000 “general purpose” bombs. “Bunker Busters,” also included in the deal, are designed to destroy concrete structures.

“The proposed sale augments Saudi Arabia’s capability to meet current and future threats from potential adversaries during combat operations,” the Defense Security Cooperation Agency, which is part of the U.S. Department of Defense, said in an announcement of the deal released Monday.
 
Good its about time. If there was ever a country that deserved to be told to fuck its self .....
 
Other than his Iran deal, I don't see how Obama's rhetoric or "personal disdain" should outweigh his actions with regards to FP Establishment actors. He may seem to dislike Bibi and the Saudi's, but he still gives them preferential treatment at the expense of Palestinians and Yemenis.
 
I have been very critical of Obama for wasting his massive political capital when elected, but I am starting to see where he might have spent it here.

I don't think oil prices crashing, and KSA's massively weakened position as happenstance.
 
But but but Obama is muzlimz!!11

Haha. To be fair, if he was a devout Shia Muslim, this would be in character. Either way, I love what he is doing.

US should have stopped kissing Saudi rings a long time ago.
 
Other than his Iran deal, I don't see how Obama's rhetoric or "personal disdain" should outweigh his actions with regards to FP Establishment actors. He may seem to dislike Bibi and the Saudi's, but he still gives them preferential treatment at the expense of Palestinians and Yemenis.

I agree with this, but I don't think oil prices crashing was happenstance, nor without design.
 
Haha. To be fair, if he was a devout Shia Muslim, this would be in character. Either way, I love what he is doing.

US should have stopped kissing Saudi rings a long time ago.
I don't understand the hate he gets. He's been a decent president.
 
I don't understand the hate he gets. He's been a decent president.

Hes black and retards have been convinced hes a communist and a muslim the 3 things real Americans seem to be the least fond of
 
Hes black and retards have been convinced hes a communist and a muslim the 3 things real Americans seem to be the least fond of
Too bad he isn't transgendered too
 
Yeah there's that awesome picture of Obama viciously headbutting that Saudi prince in the chest, I bet that got his attention. Hell, he's even cut back our military to show the world we can beat them with "one hand tied behind our back." Man, what a tough president.
 
Can't wait for the Saudi regime to topple and further instability and civil war to spread throughout the Middle East! I'm sure Western-friendly, non-jihadi-terrorists will fill the gap currently taken by the House of Saud. And if not, I'm sure America will just easily waltz in and fix the whole thing, Mission Accomplished style.

Not.
 
Does anyone know if Obama bowed to him this time?
 
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