NRL Players making an impact on the UFC and why there could be more

SpiderFan187 said:
lol I'm down even though Raiders have many injuries and I think Bunnies will win.
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You almost got the chooks
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Well,
Its alot better than American football.
Its just a bunch of juiced up sissies wearing pads, tights, and helmets dancing around giving each other five and taking a knee when the national anthem plays.
 
Pancake Sprawl said:
i don't know how you can even compare the NFL to rugby. they're apples and oranges.

it's like comparing Usain Bolt to a long distance runner and saying, "yeah Usain Bolt is softer than the long distance runner because he gets tired faster"

the rugby guys aren't as big and aren't going to hit full force the way NFL guys do because they have no pads and they don't get rests.

NFL guys are shit ass at tackling and don't have the gas tanks the rugby players do.

they're both hard sports in my opinion, i don't see how one is any tougher than the other.

this is coming from someone who has cousins that played in the NFL and a brother and cousins who played Rugby Union for Australia.
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I'm not comparing sports, I'm comparing physical toughness which is fair, like it's fair to say NFL players are tougher than Chess players right? In terms of the context of toughness it's not apples to oranges. In the context of toughness in sports Rugby League players don't wear padding, run straight at each other when doing hit ups, get up and then get back in the line to do another hit up. NFL players might be bigger but they aren't tougher. Remember this started with you calling Jarrod Hayne soft compared to NFL players / implying NRL players are softer. I'm just giving you a lesson in toughness as by your logic Bob Sapp is the toughest motherfucker ever in MMA.

In NRL if you do a big hit you might get a pat on the ass in NFL if you do a big hit the entire team ends up dancing like they just turned 18.
 
Mortal Wombat said:
You almost got the chooks
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Sweet, deal it is. Yeah man, should be a good game. I'm not on Sherdog everyday so if Raiders lose and I don't update it please PM me and I'll update it once I'm on and will leave on for a week minimum.
 
SpiderFan187 said:
Sweet, deal it is. Yeah man, should be a good game. I'm not on Sherdog everyday so if Raiders lose and I don't update it please PM me and I'll update it once I'm on and will leave on for a week minimum.
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Dont worry Im not that kind of dude. We can do it when we're ready. More just a bit of fun.
 
leftkickhospital said:
All due respect but NRL is so horrible. Fat fucks everywhere with very little athletic ability. And you are hard pressed to see a single smart play in a game. Really not a good crossover sport at all.
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they are fitter and stronger than your average nfl player. plus it's a real man's sport. not padded bullshit like nfl.
 
SpiderFan187 said:
Being an Aussie and a Big NRL and UFC fan I'm loving seeing the NRL boys making such an impact on the UFC. Former Rugby League players that have made an impact on the UFC are Booby Knuckles, Tia T & now Volkanovski.

For those outside of Australia you most likely would have heard of Rugby but Rugby League is a different game / beast which is a lot more suited to be a stepping stone into the UFC.

How and why?

Not to go into to much details about the rules but both Rugby and Rugby league have the shared aim where the attacking team needs to place the ball on the ground in their try lines and the defencing team need to stop them. In Rugby after each tackle (takedown) there's a ruck that develops as per the below image.

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The ruck is more of a team effort of control, where you're working with your team to either try and steal the ball or to keep control of the ball. Rugby has 15 players on each team on the field at a time.

Now lets compare this to Rugby League, there's 13 players on the team and there is no ruck allowed after a tackle. So once a player gets tackled they then need to work their way to a quick play the ball which is to roll the ball under their legs, as per the below image.

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Now how does this relate to the UFC?

Both games are momentum based, as an attacker you want to get a quick play the ball in both sports to catch the other team moving back / tire them out.

As a defender you want to slow them down. In Rugby since there's more bodies around the ball the control is more of a team effort on a tackle by tackle basis. In Rugby League it's a lot different since for the most part there's 2 people in a tackle, many times just a 1 on 1. If you can get the attacking player on their back then you can slow them down, while they are trying to get up quick you have some seconds to work them over. As an attacker you're trying to get up quick after each tackle / take down.

There is an average of 659 tackles per game (80 minute game) which is just over 8 per minute. To make it in the league for the most part you need to have been playing this game as a kid, training is heavily focused towards this aspect of the game where for the most part this is where the game is won. Since they were children they have been practicing their ability to take down and get up quickly and efficiently, all Rugby League teams now offer jiu jitsu training, which in turn can introduce them to the UFC.

There's different body sized players, so someone the size of Chad Mendez will need to get used to taking down some the size of DC which in turn develops some beats. Granted to make it you need more than just these skills but i feel it's evident that these skills are a great foundation to work from.
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SpiderFan187 said:
I think the movements adds to it, like helps with the quick reactions. As an example this shoulder barge Robert Whittaker does when Yoel has him rocked and is charging him. I instantly thought that NRL had helped him at that point.

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me too haha. growing up here in Australia, I feel like that's a very common way of defending yourself. it worked perfectly too.
 
I'm good with it, as long as they don't embarrass the sport like Justin Hodges did on the Tszyu undercard, that fight should never have been sanctioned.

For those who aren't aware the bloke on the left won in like 30 seconds or so.

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Espresso said:
Great read. I work with a dude that watches Australian football and Rugby... he was showing me highlights...

TWO WORDS
<{JustBleed}>


Cant believe theyre training Jiu Jitsu, thats fucking insane
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People out there getting stiffened
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Holy crap man. Those are some huge collisions!! Perfect Monday lunchtime viewing.
 
meh, it's more like most kids in australia try some rugby variation at some point of their youth, and they definitely were athletic but not good enough at "real" or mainstream rugby (which has better prospects in terms of career and earnings) so they played this less famous version of the sport
 
leftkickhospital said:
. Fat fucks everywhere with very little athletic ability.
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Am I taking troll bait here?

Out of the two main rugby codes + American football, league clearly has the least amount of leeway for its athletes to be overweight, due to the comparitively relentless pace of the game. How would a union prop or nose tackle do keeping up with the cardio and mobility requirements of league?

aichokyu said:
meh, it's more like most kids in australia try some rugby variation at some point of their youth, and they definitely were athletic but not good enough at "real" or mainstream rugby (which has better prospects in terms of career and earnings) so they played this less famous version of the sport
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Problem with this theory is league is much bigger than union in Australia. Its the same thing in the north of England which is another league hotbed. Its not like league is getting unions leftovers.
 
No one seems to know this, but Australia invented NRL after they realised they couldn't beat the All Blacks.

ALL NRL players are second rate, so why would we want the rejects from a second rate sport like NRL in UFC???
 
andmcq said:
No one seems to know this, but Australia invented NRL after they realised they couldn't beat the All Blacks.
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Wrong we beat the All Blacks most of the time and when we started playing only league and union died in schools, then you started to win mostly. No one follows the sport here, hence why they are saying Rugby Australia is going broke.
 
Mortal Wombat said:
Wrong we beat the All Blacks most of the time and when we started playing only league and union died in schools, then you started to win mostly. No one follows the sport here, hence why they are saying Rugby Australia is going broke.
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lmao, no. completely wong.
 
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