Social Not so free to speak: Columbia University ‘refusing to help’ identify people for arrest – White House

[The XL]

If the guy was illegal, then sure, send him home, but this guy has a green card and is a legal resident. Trying to silence people who live here legally, citizens or not, is a threat to free speech. This is the same administration that (rightly) took the UK and the rest of Europe to task for their draconian anti free speech measures, and here they are doing the same thing.

I see a lot of stuff being posted about Trump being a Putin agent. He pretty clearly isn't, he just doesn't care about Ukraine and the complaints levied against him are sour grapes because he doesn't want to fund the war. He is absolutely an agent of Israel and powerful Zionists though. There is a ton of evidence to support that, and this one in particular is a doozy.

 

[sickc0d3r]

Funny how the left always says, you have freedom of speech, but you are not free from the consequences. Except when that logic is applied to them.

My dude, “free speech” protects you and me from the government. The argument you’re referencing is about private consequences, like getting fired or people thinking you’re a dick or whatever.

 

[Hog-train]

Criticize Israel = You're a terrorist that deserves deportation even though you have a green card. LMAO - this is completely illegal what they're doing. Expect a big lawsuit.

Funny how the left always says, you have freedom of speech, but you are not free from the consequences. Except when that logic is applied to them.

The entire point of free speech is that the government can't arrest you for speech.

 

[avenue94]

Funny how the left always says, you have freedom of speech, but you are not free from the consequences. Except when that logic is applied to them.

Except that that saying is in reference to private actors, not the government. This is just lazy even by the standards of sherdog.

It's a really simple issue: Do you think the 1A applies to green card holders and permanent residents or not?

 

[MDoza]

Funny how the left always says, you have freedom of speech, but you are not free from the consequences. Except when that logic is applied to them.

Ya that means a private citizen can punch you in the face if you say dumb shit, then they can face those consequences..

..not the government gets to arrest you for wrong-speak.

 

[Kingz]

I support them pulling the funding just because all we know that mostly goes to feeding an unnecessarily bloated administration while they charge restrictive tuition. I don’t really care what pretext they use

But this whole search and deport for student protestors is pretty ridiculous. For one, it’s an insanely small number but they also haven’t committed any crimes. Being an ineffectual douche bag isn’t a crime and Israel is not the United States

Just seems like an easy court layup for the opposition and an inefficient use of ICE resources.

 

[HereticBD]

He's a terrorist sympathizer spouting terrorist views. Fuck him. Hope they crack down on all that shit. Get these OBL LARPers off the street.

 

[jk7707]

"Pro Hamas activity". I'd love to hear the specifics for all of these cases.

Otherwise this sounds like something out of 1984.

 

[avenue94]

He's a terrorist sympathizer spouting terrorist views. Fuck him. Hope they crack down on all that shit. Get these OBL LARPers off the street.

What happened to the First Amendment? There are already carve outs to it, and it's telling that ICE and the administration have not specifically cited what he did.

 

[HereticBD]

What happened to the First Amendment?

It goes out the window when you make threats, which I've been seeing at damn near all of these rallies, let alone this one guy. Fuck them. To Guantanamo they shall go. Get this trash out of your country, and then please come get our terrorist LARPing trash, and send them on a very shitty vacation too.

Fuck all of those motherfuckers.

 

[AmonTobin]

This student called for the destruction of Western civilisation. He should be sent back to whichever shithole country he originates from.

That's not what "free Palestine" means.

 

[essie]

Funny how the left always says, you have freedom of speech, but you are not free from the consequences. Except when that logic is applied to them.

me when i can't tell the difference between having a post deleted on twitter and being arrested by the government.

 

[avenue94]

It goes out the window when you make threats, which I've been seeing at damn near all of these rallies, let alone this one guy. Fuck them. To Guantanamo they shall go. Get this trash out of your country, and then please come get our terrorist LARPing trash, and send them on a very shitty vacation too.

Fuck all of those motherfuckers.

What threats did this person make that constituted imminent lawless action?

 

[HereticBD]

What threats did this person make that constituted imminent lawless action?

Supporting a terrorist organization, and rallying others to support said terrorist organization.

I wish you guys had human catapults for this shit. Point it to Palestine and see if he makes it. I'd say more about what I'd like to see happen to these pieces of shit, but I'd probably get banned. Fuck. Them. All.

 

[avenue94]

He's a terrorist sympathizer spouting terrorist views.

Supporting a terrorist organization, and rallying others to support said terrorist organization.

You're just repeating yourself and not answering the question. What did he actually say? Verbally or written.

I wish you guys had human catapults for this shit. Point it to Palestine and see if he makes it. I'd say more about what I'd like to see happen to these pieces of shit, but I'd probably get banned. Fuck. Them. All.

You're getting yourself into a tizzy here. What did he say that upset you so much? Surely you can point me to a quote or detailed description of his speech.

Do you even understand what constitutes imminent lawless action?

 

[ShadowRun]

This student called for the destruction of Western civilisation. He should be sent back to whichever shithole country he originates from.

Terrorist sympathizers isn’t free speech ..there is also hate laws for antisemitism

 

[Tatra]

That's not what "free Palestine" means.

Okay, and? I'm quoting this man. He said he wanted the destruction of Western civilisation. I have no sympathy for people like that and they should be deported. Every last one.

 

[HereticBD]

You're just repeating yourself and not answering the question. What did he actually say? Verbally or written.

You're getting yourself into a tizzy here. What did he say that upset you so much? Surely you can point me to a quote or detailed description of his speech.

Do you even understand what constitutes imminent lawless action?

You have laws against supporting terrorist organizations. The fact that only this guy(so far) is in the crosshairs, is all I need to know. I really don't give a shit, TBH. His active support for Hamas is good enough for me. You can play these games that these sacks of shit out there only want to support Palestine(and definitely not Hamas!), but I don't care.

I'm not up for discussion on this. These people are scum, and they need to get the fuck out of the West, period. Send them to the shitholes they love so much.

 

[avenue94]

Terrorist sympathizers isn’t free speech ..there is also hate laws for antisemitism

Yes it is. Unless you're arguing it reached the threshold of imminent lawless action. Which would be quite a stretch.

 

[avenue94]

You have laws against supporting terrorist organizations.

Point me to the one he violated. They primarily deal with finances. Again, just do yourself the bare minimum to discuss the 1A and actually understand the very few exceptions to protected speech.

The fact that only this guy(so far) is in the crosshairs, is all I need to know.

Yeah, it's so strange how the first guy they pick out happens to be a foreign born Muslim...so strange. Not like the administration has been known to seek out scapegoats.

I'm not up for discussion on this. These people are scum, and they need to get the fuck out of the West, period. Send them to the shitholes they love so much.

If you believe that, more power to you. Just don't ever try to portray yourself as being pro-free speech by US standards. Your views are quite totalitarian according to the US Supreme Court.