Not only is Aldo in the GOAT conversation... But

Frankie yes, Stephens and Moicano, no. He's still an elite fighter when he fought Stephens and Moicano but he wasn't the same explosive world beater he was when he was younger. Conor fight was the tale end of his prime, imo.
Stephens was #4 ranked FW at the time and Moicano was #5. Those could’ve easily been title defences if he still was the champ. Those guys aren’t any worse than Cub Swanson. And Aldo absolutely looked like a world beater when he finished them both early. Couldn’t do anything to Volk though. Volkanovski is incredibly underrated on this karate forum though
 
Nope.

Tibau; TDD %92
Aldo; TDD %91

+ Tibau fought Khabib, and still has higher TDD percentage than Aldo. Aldo never fought a wrestler on Khabib's level.

Still Khabib won against GOAT TDD fighter early on his career (just second UFC fight, and fighting against Prime Tibau was a great win).

Now please compare the list of opponents for both...

... thank you very much.
 
LOL
Conor has absolutely NO case over Aldo at FW. None.
Well at least your username checks out. It’s not about accomplishments. Best means best in terms of fighting, not achievements. After KOing Aldo in 13 seconds, Conor has a case over Aldo, being the best fighter out of 2
 
Stephens was #4 ranked FW at the time and Moicano was #5. Those could’ve easily been title defences if he still was the champ. Those guys aren’t any worse than Cub Swanson. And Aldo absolutely looked like a world beater when he finished them both early. Couldn’t do anything to Volk though. Volkanovski is incredibly underrated on this karate forum though

Stephens and Moicano are a combined 2-6 since they lost to Aldo, beating them doesn't really prove he was still in his prime.
 
I agree with everything you said. So I just want to ask....why? What changed? Were his injuries between 2010-2014 just a bigger deal than we thought at the time?

The other argument (that UFC competition is just more fierce, so he dominated less) is a legit theory...but if that is true it takes away some of the force of your argument.
The UFC had no featherweight division back then, the competition was essentially the same. UFC bought WEC and transferred its roster into its own, with very few additions from other orgs and some fighters dropping from higher weightclasses.


But regardless, the level of one's opponent will obviously play a role in one's performance. But I feel there was more to it than that, with Aldo's change. I have a hard time putting words into it, so to illustrate what I feel in a quicker way, let's break it down to a simpler metaphor. Imagine a guy who has a heck of an overhand right, for example, and he's fighting in a regional org. He's fast and accurate with it, and he times it well, so he's destroying everyone with that overhand, in a matter of minutes, seconds sometimes. But then the guy gets scooped up by some legit org and all of the sudden he's fighting worldclass opposition. So he tries that overhand, he's still good with it, but his opponents see it coming now, or just move faster, and our guy misses, gets countered, his setups don't work as well as before, he still lands some but with lesser impact, etc. You get the grift. The thing is, UFC Aldo didn't even threw the overhand.


I think what changed the most was his mental. WEC Aldo was fighting for food and for a roof, UFC Aldo is fighting for a little more financial comfort, pride and legacy. The injuries and motorcycle accident obviously took their toll aswell, and even without them, training and fighting at such a high level so young makes fighters fade early, more often than not (he fought his first top 5 opponent at age 23, and hasn't stopped since, barring the Chito fight).


Maybe he was on "supplements" back then, too. That's a possibility. Regardless of the reason why, he didn't fight the same way in the UFC, with the same confidence in his physical abilities. To me, that's very clear to see. But it has benefits too. More composed, more patient, more measured.. But WEC Aldo fought to destroy.
 
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