Norwegian MP - Blondes Dye Hair Dark to Avoid Racial Targeting by Migrant Rapists

[ironwolf]

What's next??? All men should grow beards so the Muslims can't tell who's Muslim and who Isn't???

Seriously, fuck Muslims.

 

[DEPROGRAMMER]

When you have a whole group of Women literally changing physical aspects of themselves to avoid gang-rape by the thousands of Muslims you just let in, it's time to admit that you fucked up...

Exactly. Like Nancy Reagan said "Just say no". It has to be part of your country leadership's responsibility to keep its population safe. If someone other people's values puts your people in constant danger, then expel those motherfuckers and do not let any others in. Sorry X people, go somewhere that agrees with your fucking behavior.

 

[Thames]

I know being the idiot that you are, that you undoubtedly never conceived of the possibility that someone could be both a racist and be right about any given topic. I understand that people like you are used to simply screaming racism every 5 seconds in order to quell any discussions you don't like, but it should be clear to even a dullard that its probably not going to work this time.

There is virtually no serious research being done on the sexual assault issues by African and middle eastern immigrants, point me to it if there is because every ounce of evidence we actually have says that there has been a long standing problem that has been buried by people like you.



Really? So why don't you dig up some statistics of your own? Oh that's right because the governments own heavily massaged statistics point to a massive issue within Muslim communities, this despite the fact that undoubtedly the majority of sexual assaults within those communities occur on their own members would be far less likely to actually report it.




So your evidence is that a politician lied? or at least was mistaken? And your attacking others based on their use of anecdotal evidence? Your fucking hilarious.




So bringing up the ultra violent nature of Islam is scaremongering? So a party isn't allowed to talk about legitimate threats to the population now? What reality do you live in?




Do you have the slightest conception of how big 8% is? Do you understand how relatively massive a number that is? No of course you don't, you have just decided that 8% doesn't seem that bad, after all that leaves 92% that just enable the culture.




Its sad that there couldn't be some middle ground were people can rationally discuss the issues without some fucking half-wit jumping in with cries of racism every 5 seconds, so that maybe people who have been predicting the problems that would come wouldn't have a reason to get defensive and aggressive.




Except of course its pretty well understood fact at this point that countries all over Europe have been covering up the issues with immigrants from these nations. Police in virtually every country in Europe have come forward at this point stating they have received orders from above to downplay crimes by immigrants. Not exactly surprising as it makes the politicians themselves look terrible.

We know that hate crime legislation has made it illegal in many places to say the plain truth on many issues, including crime problems within the immigrant communities.




Sure you have, I mean I have no reason to disbelieve your dishonest ass but hey I will just take you at face value. I mean, you will of course be completely unable to actually produce any evidence, even anecdotally, and all the statistics suggest your a fucking idiot for even bringing it up. But we all believe you anyways.



Oh, you mean the completely fabricated "Campus Rape Epidemic"? The one that turned out to have absurd fabricated numbers, when the reality turned out that rape on campus was significantly less frequent then rapes away from campus for girls in the same age category? The one were many of these "right wing assholes", were suggesting that doing away with due process in campus rape cases was psychotic and that women already use accusation of sexual assault as weapons with many examples? Ya, you do that, it will certainly help your case I'm sure.

Sure. If you're a racist and tell me that 2+2=4, I would have to agree with you. But what we're dealing with here is that you guys argue from a point of racial superiority/inferiority, which inherently blocks you from being able to comprehend the issue.

There has been several studies on precisely that. They lead the sexual assault with around 2 - 3 times as many. When it comes to actual rape they fall far behind though. In Denmark that is above 90% white.
Though, as one should note, there are several things related to that. There is a sort of hidden bias in place (this has been confirmed in case studies), where a (white) victim will usually point out the black person / muslim looking person as the offender, even though the offender was white. So it is not a sure thing.
There is also an issue with the rape statistics, since over 90% of rape is committed by people who know each other. This leads to a problem when it comes to reporting. Since rape committed in muslim homes, it is assummed, is much less reported than rapes committed in e.g. ethnic danish homes.
Statistics can be complicated.

8% is a high number in Denmark, it's a problem. It's also a problem to shit all over 92% of a demographic, simply for belonging to the "wrong" race or religion, when they are law abiding citizens.
Try to look at violent crime statistics in the U.S. Then try to look at the rape rate in the United States, and if you want to make it truly interesting, look at the racial difference.

Only in Sweden has it been confirmed that there has been a cover-up. It smells like it in Germany. I agree that that is insanely stupid and counter-productive.
I also agree that there is a cultural problem with how women are treated in middle eastern / african countries compared to e.g. Scandinavia. No question about it. And that the cultural norms from those countries should be aggresively dismissed. Any refugee or migrants who seek citizenship in a country, and who commits sexual assault, should get deported prompto.
Difference between me and your ilk is that I don't think we should paint everyone from those countries with the same brush.

It was not only rape. It was sexual assault. You know the thing you are all raging about now, like the video with the swedish girl that gets grabbed on her ass and asked if she wants to have sex. Very few rapes have been committed.

I was talking about this:
https://www.ncjrs.gov/pdffiles1/nij/grants/221153.pdf

This was heavily dismissed as being serious on this forum. The women who complained were ridiculed -> "That's just life on college!". None of the right wing nutjobs have ever taken the complaint about sexual assault serious from women before now.

Tell me, are you also the guy who spewed all that nonsense about how crime rate in the EU had gone up, and then when I showed you the statistics from Eurostat you went "I HAVE SEEN DIFFERENT NUMBERS!!!", but were never able to produce those different numbers? (I remember the guys name was awesome-something). Then you claimed that the EU had been bad for Europe in an economic sense. One of the most idiotic remarks one could make, since every single study on the subject, and of course just simple looks at change in the objective economic data, point to the exact opposite.

You seem really angry. Perhaps you get really frustrated when you are confronted with reality and objective data?

 

[Banchan]

You sound like a thinking person. I'm baffled at the thought that you take the rampant amount of racist threads on this forum as a serious indicator of anything.

There is actually serious discussions and serious research being done, as to the question of sexual assault committed by african and middle eastern immigrants.

Thames , I think I already discussed the topic of this thread , that of dying blonde hair as propaganda but that doesn't mean the entire subject of refugees and certain immigrants causing an unusually high number of sexual assaults is without any truth . Why else would there be a need to conduct "serious research and serious discussion " if a spade does not appear to be a spade ?

I came to this conclusion before the war room was full of these threads . A few years before when I would discuss sexual assault at the hands of refugee / immigrant muslims when I was living in an area very near to a high population , people laughed and said i was full of shit and they would discuss how muslims in the americas are not like that . But obviously i disagree . The war room is likely from mostly a male perspective and it's probably more so that none of them had ever been assaulted by such people and so to them , the problem doesn't exist . I think with the on slaught of all these threads and less people being afraid to tell you or be hushed by progressive views that maybe some people will finally at least allow the discussion to happen and recognize a problem when they finally allow themselves to see it .

 

[Thors Hammer]

There is a sort of hidden bias in place (this has been confirmed in case studies), where a (white) victim will usually point out the black person / muslim looking person as the offender, even though the offender was white.

LOL! What a load of shit from such a piece of shit. Where were these case studies conducted? The Frankfurt school of Marxism? I dont even like the fact that I am wasting my 1000th post on you but I might as well make it count. Instead of wasting people's time with your stupidity and blindness go find an Asian woman like the one in your profile that will actually consider your micro penis almost average size.

 

[Thames]

Thames , I think I already discussed the topic of this thread , that of dying blonde hair as propaganda but that doesn't mean the entire subject of refugees and certain immigrants causing an unusually high number of sexual assaults is without any truth . Why else would there be a need to conduct "serious research and serious discussion " if a spade does not appear to be a spade ?

I came to this conclusion before the war room was full of these threads . A few years before when I would discuss sexual assault at the hands of refugee / immigrant muslims when I was living in an area very near to a high population , people laughed and said i was full of shit and they would discuss how muslims in the americas are not like that . But obviously i disagree . The war room is likely from mostly a male perspective and it's probably more so that none of them had ever been assaulted by such people and so to them , the problem doesn't exist . I think with the on slaught of all these threads and less people being afraid to tell you or be hushed by progressive views that maybe some people will finally at least allow the discussion to happen and recognize a problem when they finally allow themselves to see it .

But are muslims in America like that? Without having looked into it that much, I was under the impression that muslims actually do very well in the U.S.

I don't disagree with your point. As mentioned above, I think the approach Sweden has taken to sweeping the problem under the rug, has not only been unethical but also very counter-productive to what they were trying to achieve.

I just don't think it's fair to say that these thread on the war room constitutes as people "not being afraid to talk about it". These threads amount to nothing more than insane racist ramblings. I mean.. Just look at them.. The first page of the "swedish women assaulted" thread was filled with "these goat fuckers" etc. Only the censorship rules here on Sherdog are keeping those threads from going full Stormfront. That is imo not talking about the issue.
My point is that even though we evidently have a problem with sexual assault from african and middle eastern immigrants. We should still keep our objective glasses on, and not give into racist lunatics setting the agenda. The threads here in the WR does the opposite of that. They just fuel hate and prejudice.

 

[Irenaeus]

Yeah, I live there. It doesn't happen, at least I've never heard of it. We have blondes everywhere, and I certainly haven't noticed any drop in their numbers.

And Tybring-Gjedde is basically the less fuckable Sarah Palin of Norwegian politics. This is just making populist politics (OMG immigrants!) of a legitimate issue (immigrant criminals in specific). Overblown, overstated, and then made into outrage porn. And you guys are falling for it without any knowledge of my country in any way.

 

[Awesomesauce]

Sure. If you're a racist and tell me that 2+2=4, I would have to agree with you. But what we're dealing with here is that you guys argue from a point of racial superiority/inferiority, which inherently blocks you from being able to comprehend the issue.

The bias of any potential rapists is clearly no greater then yours. The difference is that the hammer of even referring to someone as a racist induces such a powerful stigma in the well conditioned masses that most of your argument are undoubtedly won in this way. Its clear from the way you wield it that you have very little actual understanding of the issue are not actually familiar with the cultures in question and have a powerful case of delusion on these issues. You have the classical far left sociology bias, I wouldn't be surprised if you were a member of that group of people who continually reinforce your own irrational beliefs by bouncing them off a group of people that are as ridiculously removed from the actual issues as you are.

There has been several studies on precisely that. They lead the sexual assault with around 2 - 3 times as many. When it comes to actual rape they fall far behind though. In Denmark that is above 90% white.
Though, as one should note, there are several things related to that. There is a sort of hidden bias in place (this has been confirmed in case studies), where a (white) victim will usually point out the black person / muslim looking person as the offender, even though the offender was white. So it is not a sure thing.
There is also an issue with the rape statistics, since over 90% of rape is committed by people who know each other. This leads to a problem when it comes to reporting. Since rape committed in muslim homes, it is assummed, is much less reported than rapes committed in e.g. ethnic danish homes.
Statistics can be complicated.

No actually statistics are incredibly simple mathematically, when someone says they are complex its usually because they have poor math skills or they are trying to lie. But I don't see anything here that pops out as obviously dishonest.

8% is a high number in Denmark, it's a problem. It's also a problem to shit all over 92% of a demographic, simply for belonging to the "wrong" race or religion, when they are law abiding citizens.
Try to look at violent crime statistics in the U.S. Then try to look at the rape rate in the United States, and if you want to make it truly interesting, look at the racial difference.

I'm very aware of the difference in crime statistics among the races in the US. That however is not at issue here. If you want to discuss those problems we can do that in another thread.

My issue here is two fold, the first is that because of people like you, realistic evaluations of risk and of how these immigrants could be expected to act and the issues that may arise from it were impossible to have. With blowhard left wingers screaming racism every time anyone suggested there would be a difference between the native populations and the immigrants from these regions it became impossible to deal with the real world situation on the ground.

The second is Islam, a religion utterly incompatible with western values. The continual denials of behaviors driven by the basic tenets of this faith will never allow them to integrate with other communities.

Only in Sweden has it been confirmed that there has been a cover-up. It smells like it in Germany. I agree that that is insanely stupid and counter-productive.
I also agree that there is a cultural problem with how women are treated in middle eastern / african countries compared to e.g. Scandinavia. No question about it. And that the cultural norms from those countries should be aggresively dismissed. Any refugee or migrants who seek citizenship in a country, and who commits sexual assault, should get deported prompto.
Difference between me and your ilk is that I don't think we should paint everyone from those countries with the same brush.

So now we are ignoring Rotterdam? We are ignoring the attacks that happened 6 months ago in Cologne? We are ignoring the police in Austria and France are being ignored? There is a huge amount of evidence from all across Europe that cover-ups are the norm, not the exception.

No, your position is the irrational one that. You suggest that you're not painting the entire population with the same brush while willfully ignoring that the common thread of that group is the incredibly rigid and utterly abhorrent collection of beliefs that is Islam.

It was not only rape. It was sexual assault. You know the thing you are all raging about now, like the video with the swedish girl that gets grabbed on her ass and asked if she wants to have sex. Very few rapes have been committed.

Whats your point? That when white natives do it, its clearly a massive problem but when immigrants do it, its just boys being boys?

I was talking about this:
https://www.ncjrs.gov/pdffiles1/nij/grants/221153.pdf

Yes, that was the study where they counted women who were drunk as being unable to consent. It was largely the basis for the http://www.imdb.com/title/tt4185572/ which turned out to be almost complete crap when the fucked up mechanics how how they came to there statistics came to light. When it turned out that life away from campus was significantly more dangerous for women then life on campus. This was a vehicle for the ridiculous drive for extra judicial punishments for those accused of rape.

This was heavily dismissed as being serious on this forum. The women who complained were ridiculed -> "That's just life on college!". None of the right wing nutjobs have ever taken the complaint about sexual assault serious from women before now.

I don't remember that at all. The only discussion I remember was around the notion of due process.

Tell me, are you also the guy who spewed all that nonsense about how crime rate in the EU had gone up, and then when I showed you the statistics from Eurostat you went "I HAVE SEEN DIFFERENT NUMBERS!!!", but were never able to produce those different numbers? (I remember the guys name was awesome-something). Then you claimed that the EU had been bad for Europe in an economic sense. One of the most idiotic remarks one could make, since every single study on the subject, and of course just simple looks at change in the objective economic data, point to the exact opposite.

You seem really angry. Perhaps you get really frustrated when you are confronted with reality and objective data?

I am that guy, my numbers came from a European database, of which I could never confirm its authenticity. However in light of the recent cover-ups, I probably wouldn't bring that up if I were you.

 

[Banchan]

But are muslims in America like that? Without having looked into it that much, I was under the impression that muslims actually do very well in the U.S.

I don't disagree with your point. As mentioned above, I think the approach Sweden has taken to sweeping the problem under the rug, has not only been unethical but also very counter-productive to what they were trying to achieve.

I just don't think it's fair to say that these thread on the war room constitutes as people "not being afraid to talk about it". These threads amount to nothing more than insane racist ramblings. I mean.. Just look at them.. The first page of the "swedish women assaulted" thread was filled with "these goat fuckers" etc. Only the censorship rules here on Sherdog are keeping those threads from going full Stormfront. That is imo not talking about the issue.
My point is that even though we evidently have a problem with sexual assault from african and middle eastern immigrants. We should still keep our objective glasses on, and not give into racist lunatics setting the agenda. The threads here in the WR does the opposite of that. They just fuel hate and prejudice.

 

[Hallelujah]

"Civilizations die by suicide, not by murder." Damn then he even drops multiple George Orwell quotes. The 8th Crusade is nigh brothers!

 

[in the]

Ironically I have seen plenty of white guys act exactly like those in that video. And when feminist complain about that, the war room is sure to circlejerk about how those women need to shut the fuck up -> "they just grabbed her ass a little. These drama queens need to chill the fuck out, or stay at home, because this is how men act when they are drunk and horny". But when a brown (muslim) person does it (to a white girl). Holy shit. BURN THEM AND SHOOT THEM!.

Now obviously I think the sexual assault cases are very troubling. But some perspective is badly needed on this forum.
I should really dig up the old feminist bashing threads (where women complained about sexual assault on college campuses etc.) to showcase the extreme hypocrisy (and also the extreme racism) on this forum.

This entire post was a crash-course in the type of progressive rationalization that has led to the massive problems facing many European nations at the hand of hordes, but I wanted to focus on this part in particular because you obviously didn't understand the vast majority of criticisms leveled at western feminists. Most posters who criticized western, intersectional feminists on this site were the ones who took feminists principles, such as rape culture, and said that these pampered women believing they were victims of such a heinous patriarchical society here in the west have no idea what that type of society is truly like, that they were making up their own victimization. And as evidence of this, many of us specifically used Muslim societies to show how a real, not fictional, patriarchical suppression of women would look like. So I think you're full of shit here, to be honest, and those of us who criticized western feminists ended up being proven right by all the problems facing European women at the hands of a rapist horde of men who truly have no value for them.

We were right, and truth isn't misogynistic. It's merely truth.

 

[in the]

Also, Islam is not a race.

 

[in the]

Yeah, I live there. It doesn't happen, at least I've never heard of it. We have blondes everywhere, and I certainly haven't noticed any drop in their numbers.

And Tybring-Gjedde is basically the less fuckable Sarah Palin of Norwegian politics. This is just making populist politics (OMG immigrants!) of a legitimate issue (immigrant criminals in specific). Overblown, overstated, and then made into outrage porn. And you guys are falling for it without any knowledge of my country in any way.

I was under the assumption that the "hair dying" thing was propaganda. What truth, if any, is there to those claims? I didn't think Norway was having anywhere near the problems that Sweden, Germany, France, Belgium, and the UK (among others) were having with immigration.

Also, do you think whatever difference Norway has with other Yurip nations is because they aren't part of the EU?

 

[Thames]

The bias of any potential rapists is clearly no greater then yours. The difference is that the hammer of even referring to someone as a racist induces such a powerful stigma in the well conditioned masses that most of your argument are undoubtedly won in this way. Its clear from the way you wield it that you have very little actual understanding of the issue are not actually familiar with the cultures in question and have a powerful case of delusion on these issues. You have the classical far left sociology bias, I wouldn't be surprised if you were a member of that group of people who continually reinforce your own irrational beliefs by bouncing them off a group of people that are as ridiculously removed from the actual issues as you are.

Not going to spend time on your ramblings. You're obviously more concerned about making personal attacks, than addressing the substance.

This quote however, is fun. Because it sure seems to me like I am (almost) the only one taking the opposite side in these threads. These threads are just a giant circlejerk of likeminded (narrowminded) posters. But sure, I am the one who is afraid to challenge my opinions and knowledge.

I am that guy, my numbers came from a European database, of which I could never confirm its authenticity. However in light of the recent cover-ups, I probably wouldn't bring that up if I were you.

Yeah, thought so. Same "thought" process. Your argument (or as you call it -> facts") back then were that crime in the EU had risen (obviously with all those muslim immigrants) and the EU had been bad for the european economy. I easily showcased those statement to be utter nonsense. But no, you say:
Because Eurostat, one of the most reputable statistics institutions on the planet, funded and administered by 28 different nations, is one we can't quite trust. Even though you weren't even able to produce a single number from any source.
And now you got even more reason not to trust Eurostat because?... some police departments have neglected reporting on the race/ethnicity of the offenders in certain crimes? Even though Eurostat doesn't even make that distinction in their data, they still can't be trusted now on anything? OK.

Also, just be to clear here, your gut feeling and ratio of home recorded youtube videos, is however easily able to explain the entire truth right? That's how this works.

This is why I love discussing with you guys. Because you put yourself in a posistion where there is simply no possible way you could ever be wrong about anything.
A sample size of 3 youtube videos and a couple of sensationalist articles -> truth in its entirety.
Peer-reviewed studies, data, statistics -> Nonsense. Liberal propaganda. Not trustworthy etc.

Must be nice living in such a world. You probably won't have a lot of success in your life. But at least you know its not your fault!

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I can't see anything in this post. I don't know if it's my browser bugging, or you didn't write anything?

 

[Thames]

This entire post was a crash-course in the type of progressive rationalization that has led to the massive problems facing many European nations at the hand of hordes, but I wanted to focus on this part in particular because you obviously didn't understand the vast majority of criticisms leveled at western feminists. Most posters who criticized western, intersectional feminists on this site were the ones who took feminists principles, such as rape culture, and said that these pampered women believing they were victims of such a heinous patriarchical society here in the west have no idea what that type of society is truly like, that they were making up their own victimization. And as evidence of this, many of us specifically used Muslim societies to show how a real, not fictional, patriarchical suppression of women would look like. So I think you're full of shit here, to be honest, and those of us who criticized western feminists ended up being proven right by all the problems facing European women at the hands of a rapist horde of men who truly have no value for them.

We were right, and truth isn't misogynistic. It's merely truth.

Yes, if a girl is not subjected to living in Saudi Arabia, then there is simply zero grounds for her to complain. Zero.

Try to answer these questions honestly:
Is grabbing a girl on the ass sexual assault? If so, what should the punishment be?
Is asking a girl if she wants to have sex with you for money sexual assault? If so, what should be the punishment be?

Then go and read the "migrants sexually assault girl in Sweden" thread, and see if you can spot some hypocrisy and racism on this forum, and possibly inside your own line of thinking.
Next see if you can find some of the old feminist bashing threads, where there were videos of guys at frat parties grouping up around a girl and chanting "show your pussy" etc. Then see if you can spot some kind of general hypocrisy on this forum.

 

[Awesomesauce]

Not going to spend time on your ramblings. You're obviously more concerned about making personal attacks, than addressing the substance.

This quote however, is fun. Because it sure seems to me like I am (almost) the only one taking the opposite side in these threads. These threads are just a giant circlejerk of likeminded (narrowminded) posters. But sure, I am the one who is afraid to challenge my opinions and knowledge.

Your stunning level of hypocrisy is impressive. The person who charged in here throwing out insults at everyone has now decided that personal attacks should be off the table. Did you ever stop to think that your the only one taking your side because your side is utterly fucking moronic? Of course not, your so deep in your delusion that even the concept that you might be wrong is beyond you.

Yeah, thought so. Same "thought" process. Your argument (or as you call it -> facts") back then were that crime in the EU had risen (obviously with all those muslim immigrants) and the EU had been bad for the european economy. I easily showcased those statement to be utter nonsense. But no, you say:
Because Eurostat, one of the most reputable statistics institutions on the planet, funded and administered by 28 different nations, is one we can't quite trust. Even though you weren't even able to produce a single number from any source.
And now you got even more reason not to trust Eurostat because?... some police departments have neglected reporting on the race/ethnicity of the offenders in certain crimes? Even though Eurostat doesn't even make that distinction in their data, they still can't be trusted now on anything? OK.

Want to know my mindset? Just ask. The truth is I have no idea what sources to trust, but I lost faith in government statistics a long time ago. I'm supposed to trust Eurostat because you call it reputable? Ya ok, sure. Many people say the same thing about the BLS or statcan. I'm not the delusional one here you are. Its not that complicated really. If Merkal is willing to apply pressure boarding on forcing facebook to suppress posts about immigrant behavior, then she is certainly capable of bastardizing statistical methodologies.

I actually spend a great deal of time trying to sift through and verify information, its sources and how it fits with other known variables. Unlike you, complexity isn't something beyond me.

Also, just be to clear here, your gut feeling and ratio of home recorded youtube videos, is however easily able to explain the entire truth right? That's how this works.

Not at all, the fact of the matter is you think I am someone entirely different then I am. I am a a left wing realist. I doubt your entire fiction concerning who I am could be further from the truth. I am just educated enough to know that know source of information is beyond doubt sadly and I certainly do not take sociological studies and government reports as gospel.

This is why I love discussing with you guys. Because you put yourself in a posistion where there is simply no possible way you could ever be wrong about anything.
A sample size of 3 youtube videos and a couple of sensationalist articles -> truth in its entirety.
Peer-reviewed studies, data, statistics -> Nonsense. Liberal propaganda. Not trustworthy etc.

You see the problem here with your logic is that you are CLEARLY and obviously wrong on this particular issue. I am ALWAYS willing to accept the possibility that I am wrong even after the evidence is in. After all even the best analysis may be missing crucial data.

Its hilarious though that even in this you are a complete and utter hypocrite. You accuse me of arrogance bordering on delusions of infallibility, point out that your the only one arguing your side, and then accuse me of the same. Its quite a mental framework you have going on there.

Must be nice living in such a world. You probably won't have a lot of success in your life. But at least you know its not your fault!

I would get into this with you, but I have done that before and I regretted it.I am very happy being a disembodied digital voice, I don't need people cowed by my credentials.

I can't see anything in this post. I don't know if it's my browser bugging, or you didn't write anything?

Not sure, seems to be a quote from a post by Banchan, which was in turn solely a quote from you. Perhaps it was a bug.

 

[Awesomesauce]

Yes, if a girl is not subjected to living in Saudi Arabia, then there is simply zero grounds for her to complain. Zero.

As generally dishonest as the rest of your posts, not surprising at all. A woman has the right to not be touched, impeded or badgered, she doesn't have the right to not be looked at, or hit on in public.

The reason that people react badly to feminists these days is because of retarded ideas like "rape culture", and "rape stare". I have never heard a single western male, literally in my life, suggest that rape is EVER ok and yet popular feminist notions of a society which condoning rape persist. Go ahead an find a single example on the "far right misogynistic site" of a anyone who suggests rape is ever ok. Its also particularly offensive to those that know the origins of the term rape culture as it was co oped from legitimate concerns over societies condoning of male on male rape in the prison system.

Try to answer these questions honestly:
Is grabbing a girl on the ass sexual assault? If so, what should the punishment be? Clearly Yes, it is no question.
Is asking a girl if she wants to have sex with you for money sexual assault? If so, what should be the punishment be? No, if it persists it may however constitute harassment if its in a public space.

Then go and read the "migrants sexually assault girl in Sweden" thread, and see if you can spot some hypocrisy and racism on this forum, and possibly inside your own line of thinking.
Next see if you can find some of the old feminist bashing threads, where there were videos of guys at frat parties grouping up around a girl and chanting "show your pussy" etc. Then see if you can spot some kind of general hypocrisy on this forum.

How frat guys behave at a frat party with girls who willingly attend is completely different then what guys on the street say to women. The fact that you don't understand that is probably a huge part of your issue.

Not that I would defend frat guys in general, they are often douche-bags and I have no doubt they themselves have a higher incidence of initiating sexual assaults then the average guy that doesn't change the fact that as long as a woman doesn't get groped, threatened and can leave at any time then your comparisons are way off.

 

[Thames]

Your stunning level of hypocrisy is impressive. The person who charged in here throwing out insults at everyone has now decided that personal attacks should be off the table. Did you ever stop to think that your the only one taking your side because your side is utterly fucking moronic? Of course not, your so deep in your delusion that even the concept that you might be wrong is beyond you.




Want to know my mindset? Just ask. The truth is I have no idea what sources to trust, but I lost faith in government statistics a long time ago. I'm supposed to trust Eurostat because you call it reputable? Ya ok, sure. Many people say the same thing about the BLS or statcan. I'm not the delusional one here you are. Its not that complicated really. If Merkal is willing to apply pressure boarding on forcing facebook to suppress posts about immigrant behavior, then she is certainly capable of bastardizing statistical methodologies.

I actually spend a great deal of time trying to sift through and verify information, its sources and how it fits with other known variables. Unlike you, complexity isn't something beyond me.





Not at all, the fact of the matter is you think I am someone entirely different then I am. I am a a left wing realist. I doubt your entire fiction concerning who I am could be further from the truth. I am just educated enough to know that know source of information is beyond doubt sadly and I certainly do not take sociological studies and government reports as gospel.




You see the problem here with your logic is that you are CLEARLY and obviously wrong on this particular issue. I am ALWAYS willing to accept the possibility that I am wrong even after the evidence is in. After all even the best analysis may be missing crucial data.

Its hilarious though that even in this you are a complete and utter hypocrite. You accuse me of arrogance bordering on delusions of infallibility, point out that your the only one arguing your side, and then accuse me of the same. Its quite a mental framework you have going on there.





I would get into this with you, but I have done that before and I regretted it.I am very happy being a disembodied digital voice, I don't need people cowed by my credentials.





Not sure, seems to be a quote from a post by Banchan, which was in turn solely a quote from you. Perhaps it was a bug.

Personal attacks can be fine. It just becomes tiresome if you don't address the issue at hand while you're doing it. Or is able to respond to the other posters points.

Can you arrange these in order of which is the best indicator of objective reality:
Statistics from Eurostat, A sample (say 10) of recorded youtube/liveleak videos depicting a specific event, ratio of youtube/liveleak videos depicting opposing views of a specific subject (e.g. black muslims comitting sexual assault / white christians committing sexual assault) or articles from The Daily Mail, The Sun and other newspapers in that "genré". And don't give me a cowardly answer like "depends on ... ". Which of these sources would you ON AVERAGE be most comfortable using, if you could only chose one?

Also, do you consider private funded statistics to be more trustworthy than publicly funded? If no, then how do you think serious researchers should analyze society (social science)?

Just to see where you stand.

 

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"Civilizations die by suicide, not by murder." Damn then he even drops multiple George Orwell quotes. The 8th Crusade is nigh brothers!

Or murder under the guise of suicide. Probably the most efficient form of warfare is to convince your opponent to defeat themselves.

Executed via subversion.

 

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As generally dishonest as the rest of your posts, not surprising at all. A woman has the right to not be touched, impeded or badgered, she doesn't have the right to not be looked at, or hit on in public.

The reason that people react badly to feminists these days is because of retarded ideas like "rape culture", and "rape stare". I have never heard a single western male, literally in my life, suggest that rape is EVER ok and yet popular feminist notions of a society which condoning rape persist. Go ahead an find a single example on the "far right misogynistic site" of a anyone who suggests rape is ever ok. Its also particularly offensive to those that know the origins of the term rape culture as it was co oped from legitimate concerns over societies condoning of male on male rape in the prison system.





How frat guys behave at a frat party with girls who willingly attend is completely different then what guys on the street say to women. The fact that you don't understand that is probably a huge part of your issue.

Not that I would defend frat guys in general, they are often douche-bags and I have no doubt they themselves have a higher incidence of initiating sexual assaults then the average guy that doesn't change the fact that as long as a woman doesn't get groped, threatened and can leave at any time then your comparisons are way off.

Holy shit. Didn't see this spectacle before I posted my previous post.

Okay, disregard the post above. I was almost about to take you seriously, until this.

BUT! Should we hold a signature bet on this one -> "Go ahead an find a single example on the "far right misogynistic site" of a anyone who suggests rape is ever ok."? I just have to find a right leaning white person, say republican, that thinks that right?