Social Noose found hanging in Nascar Driver Bubba Wallace's garage stall *Update: Hoax or Misunderstanding*

[The ScorpioN]

How these big shows of theatrics can be built up again and again on top of flimsy houses of cards is beyond me.

There has to be people involved in these big uproars that start to wonder "Wait, have we even confirmed any of this stuff?"

This has to have been planned. With the media roll out and the interviews. And looks like they've learned from the Jussie debacle and added plausible deniability, "I didn't see or hear anything, my team did tho!"

 

[MoparOrNoCar]

So you guys think it's perfectly normal to use a noose as a pull down?

A year ago, if you walked into a guys shop and he had a noose tied as his garage door pull down, would you immediately think that he was racist because of it?

 

[floivanus]

This has to have been planned. With the media roll out and the interviews. And looks like they've learned from the Jussie debacle and added plausible deniability, "I didn't see or hear anything, my team did tho!"

Hey kid, NASCAR has over 1,600 car stalls, there’s no way this was planned, it was bad luck for Bubba, period.

it’s not like stalls are handed out in a planned way that makes Bubba getting that stall implausable or makes him getting that stall nonsensical, you conspiracy theorist.

 

[MicroBrew]

Newly released images of the alleged noose

https://www.espn.com/racing/nascar/...nd-bubba-wallace-garage-says-concern-was-real



1) Anyone looking at that will think it is a noose, so not hard to see why a team member thought it was, especially considering the current issues with the Confederate Battle Flag and Bubba's support for BLM.

2) The counter argument is that this has been there for awhile and is just a garage door pull-down, which is a convincing argument . But this garage was only assinged to Bubba's team last week, so it is conceivable a team member was unfamiliar with this style of pulldown.

3) The counter to #2 , which I just heard on Conservative AM talk radio, is:
NASCAR shares picture of noose from Bubba Wallace's garage, says search at all tracks found only one pulldown rope in noose

NASCAR president Steve Phelps said the organization continued its investigation of the incident after the conclusion of the FBI investigation. Phelps said sweeps of every track in the Cup Series were conducted as part of the NASCAR investigation. That included 29 speedways and 1,684 garage stalls, and Phelps said 11 pull-down ropes with knot ties had been found, but the only one fashioned like a noose was in the Talladega garage.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/spor...arage-talladega-fbi-investigation/3258153001/
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I was all set to totally believe this was a case of someone not being familiar with those pull-downs and consequently jumping the gun but with the above comment from NASCAR I am not soo sure anymore. If all the garages in Talladega had this style of pull-down then it is just a pull-down.

 

[D 1 Wrestler]

I'll give @D 1 Wrestler credit, everyone of his arguments have been debunked and every other leftist nut has left the thread, but he keeps ticking along with petty shit. Respect.

Literally none of my arguments have been debunked and all come from nascar and fbi reports lol.

My only argument is that I can understand how this happened based on the information and why it was reported. Theres no hoax here bruh. Now you're the conspiracy theorist not me

 

[D 1 Wrestler]

The shit wasn't a noose, it was a loop knot. It did not function like a noose. I guess loop knots are now racist.

Its 100% tied like a hangmans knot and looks nothing like the tiny twine knots you see in the old video footage from years ago

 

[D 1 Wrestler]

Are the other garage door pullers like the one pictured?

No according to nascar across all their tracks this is the only one. It sounds like a year or so ago someone tied this stall in a noose fashion and somehow Bubba just got assigned to it by random luck at the worst possible time. If you want to go conspiracy theory then you could argue maybe a higher up in nascar knew and planned it hoping this would happen. But again from my understanding his points put him in that stall by order of rank

 

[deadshot138]

Its 100% tied like a hangmans knot and looks nothing like the tiny twine knots you see in the old video footage from years ago

Still on board that it's a hoax. Jussie supplied his own noose as well.

 

[lowlife]

A year ago, if you walked into a guys shop and he had a noose tied as his garage door pull down, would you immediately think that he was racist because of it?

Based on that alone no, but it would certainly give me pause. The only use for a loop on the end is if you can't reach it to grab it I guess, generally the rope or chain is at a level where you can grab it and start pulling down. Then the rope or chain wraps around a hook to hold it in place. I've seen a few different setups, point is there is zero use for a full noose on a pull down, unless maybe you just think it looks cool I guess. So that was my whole point, if anybody else thought that was strange in and of itself. Apparently most people in here think a noose for a pull down is perfectly normal, in the south no less, ok then.

 

[MicroBrew]

...yeah, the 9834698476 black power symbols are just unrelated, amirite?

thanks for proving MY point, though.

What Black power symbols are you talking about?

 

[The ScorpioN]

Hey kid, NASCAR has over 1,600 car stalls, there’s no way this was planned, it was bad luck for Bubba, period.

it’s not like stalls are handed out in a planned way that makes Bubba getting that stall implausable or makes him getting that stall nonsensical, you conspiracy theorist.

Or "his team" tied it themselves and then "noticed" the hate crime.

 

[HereticBD]

Or "his team" tied it themselves and then "noticed" the hate crime.

It was there for nine months previously, so I doubt it.

This was a good old fashioned publicity stunt. Now if only NASCAR knew it's audience. Ain't no black folks, or white SJW's gonna watch NASCAR after this. All they did was irritate their base with this obvious hoax. Stupid is as NASCAR does...

 

[Bald1]

And this is why we could all do with as broad a view of history (and even the present-day world we live on) as possible. It allows us to put ourselves into perspective with the rest of human existence.
I'm not saying we should base what we strive for on what history has taught us to expect. But we do live in reality; it's helpful to familiarise ourselves with it.

It would at least help with this persecution complex that seems to be more infectious than the WuFlu. History is riddled with terrible events and actions, some due to evil, some to greed and others because of famine mentality. Every people have been victimized one way or another.

Learn from it, use it as a landmark to gain perspective on how far we've come and how much further we have yet to go, but don't live in it. Because you'll never be able to move on to better things if you do.

 

[Greta Thunberg]

Its 100% tied like a hangmans knot and looks nothing like the tiny twine knots you see in the old video footage from years ago

So you post a tiny far away photo of one rope and a big close up of the other...

Timestamped


They are similar. You see what you want to see.

 

[rob mafia]

What Black power symbols are you talking about?

...WAT

are you seriously unaware of what those fist symbols are/mean and why so many blm people raise a fist for photo ops? are you TRULY this dense?

i can see how you've never noticed this before. /s

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Power

 

[Bald1]

Newly released images of the alleged noose

https://www.espn.com/racing/nascar/...nd-bubba-wallace-garage-says-concern-was-real



1) Anyone looking at that will think it is a noose, so not hard to see why a team member thought it was, especially considering the current issues with the Confederate Battle Flag and Bubba's support for BLM.

2) The counter argument is that this has been there for awhile and is just a garage door pull-down, which is a convincing argument . But this garage was only assinged to Bubba's team last week, so it is conceivable a team member was unfamiliar with this style of pulldown.

3) The counter to #2 , which I just heard on Conservative AM talk radio, is:
NASCAR shares picture of noose from Bubba Wallace's garage, says search at all tracks found only one pulldown rope in noose

NASCAR president Steve Phelps said the organization continued its investigation of the incident after the conclusion of the FBI investigation. Phelps said sweeps of every track in the Cup Series were conducted as part of the NASCAR investigation. That included 29 speedways and 1,684 garage stalls, and Phelps said 11 pull-down ropes with knot ties had been found, but the only one fashioned like a noose was in the Talladega garage.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/spor...arage-talladega-fbi-investigation/3258153001/
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I was all set to totally believe this was a case of someone not being familiar with those pull-downs and consequently jumping the gun but with the above comment from NASCAR I am not soo sure anymore. If all the garages in Talladega had this style of pull-down then it is just a pull-down.

Yup, that looks like a noose to me. The question is, has that particular configuration been there since last year? If yes, then it's pretty unlikely to be a racist situation.

But..

It's possible that whoever assigns stalls knew about the discrepancy and decided to be cute and stir the pot. If that turns out to be the case then fuck that guy and throw him to the wolves.

 

[DespicablePeep]

Well I mean that's why I asked the question. You seem to have a hard time understanding things.

And to a certain degree it seems you're arguing with a voice in your head LOL.

Its hard to discuss with someone that can't make a clear statement. You have been implying things to prove your twisted view

 

[D 1 Wrestler]

So you post a tiny far away photo of one rope and a big close up of the other...

Timestamped


They are similar. You see what you want to see.

Not remotely similar in size nor knot, keep pushing the conspiracy theories though like a good ol low iq boy

 

[DragRacer]

Those aren’t the actual shop garages, that’s the pit side paddock, but every one of them has multiple 4K cameras covering every square inch of the place.

It was tied that way a year or more ago. There also aren't cameras trained on every garages

 

[D 1 Wrestler]

Those aren’t the actual shop garages, that’s the pit side paddock, but every one of them has multiple 4K cameras covering every square inch of the place.

No they don't. There was a nascar reporter on our local radio and he said that's not true at all, and there may even be less cameras than normal since the area is exclusive to racers, crew and track workers only due to covid