Nonpareil.

[pr0ne2gr8tness]

'If someone had thought to coin the term "pound for pound" during this era, Dempsey would likely have been the reason why.'

That term was in fact around during Dempsey's time and well before, King, although it was mainly used when comparing food products and whatnot, and I personally haven't seen it associated with the sport of boxing until about a dozen or so years after Dempsey's death (1906 to 1907-ish...at the time it was referenced in the papers to guys like Gans & Ketchel in some manner or another).

Had it been associated with boxing (a boxer) during his time, Dempsey would have been a natural to fit the term, no doubt, and who knows...maybe he was in fact referred to as such at some point during his time (again, the term was around in print), only to see that possible reference lost over time.

Anyways, after finding the time to take it up, that was certainly a great read on a great fighter, King, so thanks a bunch for that.

The little bit above the last line is mainly for the twits who believe the "pound for pound" term was somehow "coined" specifically for Robinson, that's all.

im pretty young so havent looked into dempsey, but is it true that he never fought a black heavyweight?

 

[GlassJaw]

im pretty young so havent looked into dempsey, but is it true that he never fought a black heavyweight?

Nope, just not a certain group of them is all. Dempsey took the belt from an African American champion.

 

[mschatz]

Nope, just not a certain group of them is all. Dempsey took the belt from an African American champion.

the first dempsey, correct?

 

[Hammer Time]

wasnt the original jack dempsey the one who instructed "u got to get mad at the other fellow" as well as his famous "a champion never quits" when he was pummeled by fitzimmons

 

[pr0ne2gr8tness]

thx, been looking into the old skool champs got a few of the books i.e marciano, louis etc.. tho havent found any biog of dempsey which wud be interesting

 

[mschatz]

thx, been looking into the old skool champs got a few of the books i.e marciano, louis etc.. tho havent found any biog of dempsey which wud be interesting

"A flame of pure fire - Jack Dempsey & the roaring 20's" its excellent

 

[pr0ne2gr8tness]

"A flame of pure fire - Jack Dempsey & the roaring 20's" its excellent

nice, will look for that.. does any1know if the following boxers have books about them that r any good (yep at college doing a work on them)? jack johnson, jack sharkey, max baer, joe frazier, lennox lewis?

 

[mschatz]

Jack Johnson - unforgivable blackness
Max Baer - glamour boy of the ring
joe frazier - smokin' joe (auto bio)
lennix lewis - Lennox

 

[pr0ne2gr8tness]

Jack Johnson - unforgivable blackness
Max Baer - glamour boy of the ring
joe frazier - smokin' joe (auto bio)
lennix lewis - Lennox

result.. thx 4 that

 

[mschatz]

not a problem.