News No More Millions: PFL Cuts Tournament Winner Prize

[SuperAlly]

In PFL, you will from now on be a half million dollar champion. Looks like they were tired of guys winning two tournaments and retiring or the Saudi money is drying up.


PFL contracts state that fighters are payed $20k/$20k show in + $500k bonus for winning the tournament.

Get the u fight cheap dorks in here

 

[AMAZINGUFC]

PFL is dying

 

[Steve Fox]

Because when he moved to PFL he said it was because he wanted to make it fair for fighters and he would fight for them.

Then PFL was fucking fighters really bad (not offering fights, etc) and Ngannou has been quiet.

We went from an Unions guy to radio silent as soon as he cashed out.

Obviously. He is Ngonne now.

 

[SuperAlly]

Yeah it's all fucked. Seems like it's setup that way with backdoor deals keeping the UFC in charge and just fuck everyone else.

Take off the tinfoil hat

 

[_manhattan]

Because when he moved to PFL he said it was because he wanted to make it fair for fighters and he would fight for them.

Then PFL was fucking fighters really bad (not offering fights, etc) and Ngannou has been quiet.

We went from an Unions guy to radio silent as soon as he cashed out.

Only an idiot blames Francis here. Francis is at $2M per fight.

They were paying out millions of dollars every year to comparative nobodies, all of a sudden the whole thing collapses under the weight of Francis?

This is about PFL subsidizing the Bellator brand x roster.

 

[SuperAlly]

Francis sank an entire organisation

At this point it ain't even worth putting on any of his fights because they lose money on it

People finally gonna understand on here that what was best for Francis was terrible for UFC and they were right not to let him box

 

[USA!USA!]

Lol at the smooth brains blaming Francis.. as if he forced them to sign him that deal with a gun in hand.

This was just bad business by their executives. They really do appear to be a sinking ship at the moment, and the GFL appears to be the new upcoming flavor of the month.

 

[_manhattan]

Because when he moved to PFL he said it was because he wanted to make it fair for fighters and he would fight for them.

Then PFL was fucking fighters really bad (not offering fights, etc) and Ngannou has been quiet.

We went from an Unions guy to radio silent as soon as he cashed out.

Francis signed with PFL before Bellator was acquired.

The dynamics of the company structure changed and he has no say in that. Your argument is moot.

 

[SalvadorAllende]

Francis signed with PFL before Bellator was acquired.

The dynamics of the company structure changed and he has no say in that. Your argument is moot.

Only an idiot blames Francis here. Francis is at $2M per fight.

They were paying out millions of dollars every year to comparative nobodies, all of a sudden the whole thing collapses under the weight of Francis?

This is about PFL subsidizing the Bellator brand x roster.

Nobody can blame him for what happened.. but Francis is keeping his mouth shut when fighters are getting fucked all over the place by the organization after all the shit that he talked in the UFC is hilarious.

He talked like he was an Unions representative and he was going to fight for the fighters... and a good paycheck after he went radio silent.

Francis cashed out.. that is pretty much it.

 

[Koala]

You can cut all you want, Rabadanov, Musaev, Khizriev, Loughnane, Aubin-Mercier, O'Connell, Cara de Sapato, Impa Kasanganay could not make 500k + 4 fights at 20+20, which means 660k in one year in the UFC
If you're a no-name and far from title contention in the UFC, your financial sweet spot remains the PFL GP. Good fighters the UFC doesn't care about like Guskov, Bukauskas, should still chase the PFL GP

 

[ChangeIsComing]

Why is Ngannou catching flak?

He's the only reason people even watch PFL.

Without him, this thread would have been moved from the heavies instantly

Not sure if this is sarcasm, Francis has fought once for PFL and is not scheduled to fight again as of now...PFL signing him was a big mistake...no one cares to watch Francis...at all.

 

[leto1776]

The pay structure never made sense to me from day one. We are talking pre Francis here. I've always wondered how much these events generated. Did PFL make enough to break even each event or what.

They really should stick to their Lane instead of trying get greedy.

The hardest thing in combat sports is obtaining valuable assets (fighters) and then trying to keep them under contract.

lol, getting fighters to sign contracts that bind them is the easiest part.

Donn is the owner of PFL dude

No, he’s the CEO. Totally different

Bellator has an inferior product and is haemorrhaging money.

Bellator doesn’t exist. It’s PFL wearing a Bellator skin suit.

Rizin has a more entertaining product but is at the very least still operating at a loss.

Source: I made it up. RIZIN cut back their costs dramatically and focused on their domestic market, and are now profitable even without their network tv deal.

Almost all combat sports promotions are operating at a loss, even ones that payout far more revenue to its athletes like Matchroom Boxing or PBC.

Matchroom Boxing doesn’t operate at a loss, lmfao. If it was, Matchroom Sports would drop it, as it’s only a portion of what they offer. Edward is no fool

Based on what?

It came to him in a dream

Nobody can blame him for what happened.. but Francis is keeping his mouth shut when fighters are getting fucked all over the place by the organization after all the shit that he talked in the UFC is hilarious.

He talked like he was an Unions representative and he was going to fight for the fighters... and a good paycheck after he went radio silent.

Francis cashed out.. that is pretty much it.

Yeah, people (especially the portion of mma media that constantly clashes with UFC) were ready to grant Francis sainthood, saying he had changed the game, but I had a suspicion that everything he was getting, would end up only benefitting him.

 

[Brigfa2]

Bringing one star to your promotion doesn't make a big difference. Ngannou is not a star btw but let's pretend his is at Conor and Pereira's level for the sake of argument
Ronaldo is the most popular athlete in the planet but no one gives a fuck about Saudi league, people sometimes watch his matches but he plays every week while Ngannou fights less than once a year lol

 

[Spiderbite]

It's unfortunate.
These orgs have to overpromise and overpay for virtually everything while the UFC dials back on the promotional side due to their status and virtual monopoly.

BKFC really is the only option. If they can keep doing it on the relative cheap for a few more years, they may be able to really make something of it.

 

[Söze Aldo]

Because when he moved to PFL he said it was because he wanted to make it fair for fighters and he would fight for them.

Then PFL was fucking fighters really bad (not offering fights, etc) and Ngannou has been quiet.

We went from an Unions guy to radio silent as soon as he cashed out.

This is some revisionism now. Ngannou always said his point had less to do with money but how the UFC could lock down "independent contractors" from being able to partake in other sports outside the UFC. Dana has always said they are not employees, so this would be practically illegal in other industries.

Ngannou turned down higher pay offers from the UFC because he didn't like that lockdown clause in the contracts.

He went to PFL because they didn't have that clause. The impact was always to be his name would bring eyes to the PFL, which it did. He was never in charge of their business practices.

 

[El Fernas]

So, PFL is gone in a year or so? Ngannou better fight for them soon or there will be no more PFL millions for him.

I though the original one million represented a fighter's total earnings for all fights if they won the tourney, rather than it being a one million bonus...?

So the actual 'champ bonus' depended on what a particular fighter's show/win money was for all fights leading to the tourney win, because it was essentially a 'top up' to one million total.

What it seems now is they have done away with that and a fighter will get whatever their particular show/win money is, per your contract, plus a specified champ bonus (500k in what this person has seen, which may or may not be the same in every contract).

You are right, sort of, i think the 1 million grand prize included like the last 2 fights purses, still pretty decent pay if you dominate over there like Kayla Harrison did until she lost and she took what was left of her name value to the UFC for more "consistent" pay, or she knew something, that the tournament pay was about to go down and it wasnt worth the risk anymore.

 

[Pechan]

They should had dropped it after the first year.

 

[flektarn]

shit org that didn't have sound financials having to cut prize money. WHOA! Glad I was sitting down when I read the news, who could've saw this coming?

 

[Small Town Andrew]

Paid Ngannou 10 million for 10k ppv buys. That's $1000 per buy!

That is the kinda thing that puts a promotion out of business.

 

[Lycandroid]

Fuck PFL, they should have never bought Bellator, thank you for killing two of the bigger promotions Don Davies