kamag06
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Many people have been talking about Matt Brown not deserving a title fight because he hasn't beat the "upper echelon".
I would like to display some numbers and and records over the last 6 fights in the UFC(encompasses 2-3 years most of the time which seems like a reasonable and relevant timeframe) of the "top 5". I will also show their opponents records over the past 5 years IN THE UFC.
Hector Lombard UFC Record 3-2 (has not fought 6 times in the UFC)
-Defeats Jake Shields (UFC Record 4-3-1) by UD
-Defeats Nate Marquart (UFC Record last 5 Year 5-5) by KO
-Loss to Yushin Okami (UFC Record last 5 years 7-4) by Decision
-Defeats Palhares (UFC Record last 5 year 6-3) by KO
-Loss to Tim Boetsch (UFC REcord last 5 years 6-4) by Decision
Opponents total record= 28-19-1 (.583)
Rory MacDonald UFC Record 5-1
-Defeats Demian Maia (6-5) Decison
-Loss to Robbie Lawler (3-1) Decision
-Defeats Ellenberger (8-2) Decision
-Defeats BJ Penn (3-4-1) Decision
-Defeats Che Mills (2-2) TKO
-Defeats Mike Pyle (8-4) TKO
Opponents Total Record= 30-15 (.666)
Tyrone Woodley UFC Record 3-1
-Defeats Carlos Condit (6-3) TKO.....
-Defeats Koschek (4-4) TKO
-Loss to Jake Shields (4-3-1) Decision
-Defeats Jay Hieron (0-2) KO
Opponents Total Record= 14-12-1 (.518)
Matt Brown UFC Record 6-0
-Defeats Erick Silva (4-4) by TKO
-Defeats Mike Pyle (8-4) By KO
-Defeats Jordan Mein (2-1) By TKO
-Defeats Mike Swick (2-3) by KO
-Defeats Luis Ramos (0-2) By TKO
-Defeats Thompson (4-1) By Decision
Opponents Total Record 20-15 (.571)
Jake Ellenberger UFC Record 4-2
-Loss to Rory MacDonald (6-2) By Decision
-Defeats Nate Marquart (5-5) By KO
-Defeats Jay Hieron (0-2) By Decision
-Loss to Martin Kampmann (5-5) By TKO
-Defeats Diego Sanchez (4-5) By Decision
-Defeats Jake Shields (4-3-1) By KO
Opponents Total Record 24-22-1 (.510)
I left out Lawler because he just fought for the belt but would love to watch him fight for it again and I left out Condit because he will be out a looooong time....
What's your thoughts.
Looking strictly at the numbers it is hard to understand why Matt Brown would be dismissed from a title fight so much easier than Lombard, Woodley or MacDonald. The fact that he has finished 5 of his last 6 opponents and defeated all of them (who have a .571 win pecentage in the UFC in the last 5 years) is more impressive to me than being 3-2 or 3-1 against opponents with .518 winning percentage.....
I get the idea of what people are saying but are we maybe putting too much stock in defeating a declining Koschek, Shields or Marquart and not giving enough credit to defeating an up and comer like Stephen Thompson or Jordan Mein or a stout vet like Mike Pyle with an 8-4 record over the last 5 years....... We can sit here doing MMAth all day- looking at who the guys that they beat beat and who those guys beat and giving biased opinions but in the end these numbers show a guy in Matt Brown that finishes guys with winning records every fight.....
Anyways. Not trying to argue, just showing the numbers. Hope he gets his shot!
I would like to display some numbers and and records over the last 6 fights in the UFC(encompasses 2-3 years most of the time which seems like a reasonable and relevant timeframe) of the "top 5". I will also show their opponents records over the past 5 years IN THE UFC.
Hector Lombard UFC Record 3-2 (has not fought 6 times in the UFC)
-Defeats Jake Shields (UFC Record 4-3-1) by UD
-Defeats Nate Marquart (UFC Record last 5 Year 5-5) by KO
-Loss to Yushin Okami (UFC Record last 5 years 7-4) by Decision
-Defeats Palhares (UFC Record last 5 year 6-3) by KO
-Loss to Tim Boetsch (UFC REcord last 5 years 6-4) by Decision
Opponents total record= 28-19-1 (.583)
Rory MacDonald UFC Record 5-1
-Defeats Demian Maia (6-5) Decison
-Loss to Robbie Lawler (3-1) Decision
-Defeats Ellenberger (8-2) Decision
-Defeats BJ Penn (3-4-1) Decision
-Defeats Che Mills (2-2) TKO
-Defeats Mike Pyle (8-4) TKO
Opponents Total Record= 30-15 (.666)
Tyrone Woodley UFC Record 3-1
-Defeats Carlos Condit (6-3) TKO.....
-Defeats Koschek (4-4) TKO
-Loss to Jake Shields (4-3-1) Decision
-Defeats Jay Hieron (0-2) KO
Opponents Total Record= 14-12-1 (.518)
Matt Brown UFC Record 6-0
-Defeats Erick Silva (4-4) by TKO
-Defeats Mike Pyle (8-4) By KO
-Defeats Jordan Mein (2-1) By TKO
-Defeats Mike Swick (2-3) by KO
-Defeats Luis Ramos (0-2) By TKO
-Defeats Thompson (4-1) By Decision
Opponents Total Record 20-15 (.571)
Jake Ellenberger UFC Record 4-2
-Loss to Rory MacDonald (6-2) By Decision
-Defeats Nate Marquart (5-5) By KO
-Defeats Jay Hieron (0-2) By Decision
-Loss to Martin Kampmann (5-5) By TKO
-Defeats Diego Sanchez (4-5) By Decision
-Defeats Jake Shields (4-3-1) By KO
Opponents Total Record 24-22-1 (.510)
I left out Lawler because he just fought for the belt but would love to watch him fight for it again and I left out Condit because he will be out a looooong time....
What's your thoughts.
Looking strictly at the numbers it is hard to understand why Matt Brown would be dismissed from a title fight so much easier than Lombard, Woodley or MacDonald. The fact that he has finished 5 of his last 6 opponents and defeated all of them (who have a .571 win pecentage in the UFC in the last 5 years) is more impressive to me than being 3-2 or 3-1 against opponents with .518 winning percentage.....
I get the idea of what people are saying but are we maybe putting too much stock in defeating a declining Koschek, Shields or Marquart and not giving enough credit to defeating an up and comer like Stephen Thompson or Jordan Mein or a stout vet like Mike Pyle with an 8-4 record over the last 5 years....... We can sit here doing MMAth all day- looking at who the guys that they beat beat and who those guys beat and giving biased opinions but in the end these numbers show a guy in Matt Brown that finishes guys with winning records every fight.....
Anyways. Not trying to argue, just showing the numbers. Hope he gets his shot!