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Bring back Pride rules back or at least knees to the ground. 10 minute rounds. Yellow cards for stalling etc. Until then US MMA rules are basically just a wrestling advert
Media Nick Diaz predicted these things. Unified MMA rules need to be changed
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Bring back Pride rules back or at least knees to the ground. 10 minute rounds. Yellow cards for stalling etc. Until then US MMA rules are basically just a wrestling advert
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People were complaining about LNP being too prominent looooong before 2013.
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This. The irony of someone making an account called "Pride Never Dies" when it's very obvious they were not even watching MMA back then.
Lay and pray was a MUCH bigger problem in the 2000s than it is now. The sport is 90% strikers now hence the select few grapplers looking invincible despite never having their grappling tested by anyone competent.
Might as well say "bring back fixed fights" OP or did your streaming site not tell you about that one?
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This. The irony of someone making an account called "Pride Never Dies" when it's very obvious they were not even watching MMA back then.
Lay and pray was a MUCH bigger problem in the 2000s than it is now. The sport is 90% strikers now hence the select few grapplers looking invincible despite never having their grappling tested by anyone competent.
Might as well say "bring back fixed fights" OP or did your streaming site not tell you about that one?
I'm just reposting what full send posted. You can tell they didn't watch the sport back then. But it doesn't make it any less true that there's always been a problem in US. UFC literally started as a grappling advertisement for bjj. I've been watching way longer than you, trust. And you're a TuF noob with that avatar, scrub.
Nick Diaz is only complaining because when it came to fighting the top ranked fighters in his division, his wrestling, grappling and Jiu Jitsu wasnt enough. Maybe if both Nick and Nate actually incorporated and improved in other aspects of MMA, they could compete and maybe even win agwinst these wrestlers and grapplers. A lot of people won’t say it, but Nick Diaz is not smart enough to see the problem and fix it, it’s better to complain and get gullible fans to believe his philosophy. Theres a reason why Nick ans Nate avoided wrestlers ans grapplers, mostly Nate, last actual grappler he fought was Benson Henderson & Dos Anjos ans he get wrecked in both fights, in fact Dos Anjos outboxed his ass in the pocket.
You’re not to be trusted, Pride nuthuggers are the most dishonest group on this board, consistently lieing, and by weekly putting down modern mma fighters like they could never surpassed or compete with your precious favorites, when in reality, all you’re doing is a disservice to them eith the constant lies and brings to light that they were more overrated, you folks has surpassed Mcgregor fans, and thats nothing to be proud of.
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"strikes"
I don't think the rules need to change btw, it's part of fighting and if you can't defend it that's your problem. But that was definitely lnp, stalling, or however you want to call it.
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I feel like you're just saying this stuff because you think they suck or something. They both were very high level fighters, and didn't duck many people at all during their primes.
They both fought grapplers. I dont know what you're talking about in regards to Nate Diaz, especially. He fought Gray Maynard, Jim Miller, Clay Guida, Joe Stevenson, Rory MacDonald, Dong Hyun Kim, Josh Thomson. Even when he was past his prime and highly selective he accepted a fight against Khazmat. He did not duck grapplers at all.
Just because they were never the UFC champions doesn't mean they were ducks or couldn't beat high level fighters. Just because Nate fought Jorge Masvidal and Jake Paul at the end of his career doesn't mean he was a duck or scared of wrestlers.
Or it's like you think Nate Diaz's career only started after he beat McGregor or something. Nate fought when 155 was filled with wrestlers, even the strikers he fought could grapple (Melvin, Cerrone).
I don’t think they suck, they’re exciting, fun to watch, but a tad bit overrated in terms of what fans elevated them to. I think Nick is much better fighter than Nate.
High level, that maybe an opinion to be honest. I think Nick is very skilled, but he has a clear weakness, they both do. A blueprint has been out there to beat them for a while, good wrestler with top control, adequate sub defense & striking & cardio. Although easier said than done, but it’s been done. Nick didnt duck anyone, Nate sure did, claims theres no good fighters, said no to Khabib 3x, Poirier and Gaethje, wants to fight Ngannou and Adesanya knowing full well those bouts are unrealistic, I’ll give him props for accepting the Khamzat bout.
Never said Nate didnt fight grapplers, i said the last actual grappler he fought was Benson Henderson who actually utilizes his grappling more so than Dos Anjos. That was back 2012, over the past decade he hasn’t fought a grappler, not one, thst was when he was 27. In his prime.
He definitely ducked Khabib back 2014, even after scuffle at Wsof event, Diaz already “won” via “slap” so he doesn’t need to fight him. and he ducked Poirier, who isnt entirely a grappler but i believe would’ve beat the brakes of out Nat, Diaz was playing games with the UFC after he signed claiming he’s not going to fight Poirier to the point the UFC was looking for replacement fights for Poirier, instead Poirier opted to have treat a injury.
He said no to Usman & Woodley. Nate talking shit to Usman, then when Usman wanted the fight Nate backed down, Nate said no to a fight with Tyron Woodley when it was offered, instead fought Anthony Pettis, he also said No to Khabib a few times. Nothing wrong with fighting Masvidal, thst has nothing to do with Diaz talking nonsense to fighters like Usman, Khabib and Woodley but when offered he said No. I don’t tink Usman was ever offered but he called out Usman in the twitters, when Usman wanted the fight and asked Sean Shelby, Nate backed out.
You missed, i said he hasn’t fought a grappler for over a decade, his last grappler thst he fought was Benson Henderson a actual wrestler/grappler, not some kickboxers who can grapple, a full fledge fighter who utilizes wrestling*grappling to victory.
Why would I think Nate’s started his career after Mcgregor? Ive been watching this MMA for a long time, Nate was selective with his bouts and avoided grapplers until Khamzat which didn’t occur, which i gave him props for accepting thst bout.
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Pretty cool that he predicted the past.
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We absolutely need knees, foot stomps, and soccer kicks to a downed opponent.
And for refs to not be such pussies. Let the fight go until there is ZERO OBJECTIVE DOUBT that the guy is OUT or TAPPING. If there is any shred of doubt, let the fight continue.
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Yah they should have Pride rules but 5 min rounds.
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why not
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I feel personally that wrestlers currently have less success in the UFC now than they ever have. Right now, the majority of champions favor striking over grappling.
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We have plenty of fighters who aren’t very exciting with 5 minute rounds. You’d really want to watch a HW fight involving Marcin Tybura or Mo Usman have a ten minute round? I’m a person that generally enjoys and doesn’t hate on WMMA, but I sure don’t want to see Racquel Pennington or Miranda Maverick or somebody fight a 10 minute round. My god.
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Ohh... Nick Diaz.. a generational mastermind.
We have fuck ton of exciting champs and you guys keep complaining about Khamzat-DDP fight.
Name another champ who hugged his way to a title. Even Merab finished Omali in his last one.
We have fuck ton of exciting champs and you guys keep complaining about Khamzat-DDP fight.
Name another champ who hugged his way to a title. Even Merab finished Omali in his last one.
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Nick infamously refused to fight Jay Heiron for the Strikeforce welterweight title strictly due to his wrestling and was more than happy to fight Whitemare who gave up nearly half a foot in height and 7in reach. Didn't fight another grappler in their prime after his first UFC stint for the rest of his career except for the big money fight with GSP.
Nate did fight grapplers until he got fed up with losing to them and moved up to WW. Until he ran into MacDonald and Stungun Kim and ran back to lightweight. I don't know why you would mention Khamzat when Nate publicly refused that fight for a year until realizing the UFC would not give him his final fight with anybody else, and immediately backed out as soon as there was an issue. Tyron Woodley was offering both of the Diaz boys title shots and they didn't want that smoke and it wasn't because they scared of his overhand.
