Ngannou doesnt train on the ground...says Rogan

[Jorge Luis Borges]

In a way this is good news for Ngannou fans. Imagine if he was simply just that bad after years of training. There's nowhere to go but up.

 

[itheuser]

So, he doesn't train on the ground, and he is not even a good striker (very bad form).

It is a amazing how somebody with so little athletic experience can just train a couple of years and contend in the UFC.

The talent pool in MMA is so shallow. I don't respect any of these so called "HW GOATs."

Because at HW, heavy hands can get you far without forcing you to expose your weaknesses in what is historically a weak division technique wise. It's why undersized HW's in Fedor and Cormier found success there. They had power, but they were faster, and had better technique than the larger HW's. Size is only beneficial up to a certain degree when grappling is involved.

Since HW's tend to have power, they rely on it to the detriment of other skills. A lack of agility, and their size can make it harder to flow effortlessly on the ground.

Stipe set the record for title defenses at three.

Enough said.

Most HW's just aren't that good on the ground.

 

[Thesnake101]

Art JImmerson was a better striker though.

Yeah, but Ngannou is the better bodybuilder, so it evens out.

 

[The guest]

Rogan is a fuckin clown...

 

[Thesnake101]

In a way this is good news for Ngannou fans. Imagine if he was simply just that bad after years of training. There's nowhere to go but up.

Maybe that's also Hunt's issue. After all those decades, he still hasn't picked up on the fact that you need to train grappling to further succeed in MMA.

ADCC Hunto will dethrone Stipe in 2020.

 

[Kowboy On Sherdog]

Ngannou found out that being a freak athlete with explosive power doesn't matter if you cant land the bomb... Pretty sure he will learn from his mistakes and train harder. The guy still has a lot of fights left in him to work his way back up.

 

[A.S. Deep]

There's zero chance that he does no grappling training at all. This is bullshit to try to get the hypetrain started again. Just wait to see him again now that he realizes he actually has to train grappling! OMG!!!

He got beat by a better, more experience, more well rounded fighter. It's not a surprise. He'll fight for the title again.

You have to love how Rogan is trying to save face now.

 

[Lay N Pray 101]

Brock didn't let people hit him in the face during training, and he still got the HW belt and defended it twice.

Jacked White Boy > Cameroonian Ford Escort

Beating a 50 year old Couture, an overzealous Mir who he outweighed by close to 50lbs and a gassed out Carwin ain't shit. Not to mention, Lesnar was juiced to the gills.

 

[VERBAL-FEDOR]

Art JImmerson was a better striker though.

Yes, Art was way more technical.

But Fran and Art both looked lost on their backs. Good thing Stipe is no Royce Gracie.

 

[A.S. Deep]

Ngannou found out that being a freak athlete with explosive power doesn't matter if you cant land the bomb... Pretty sure he will learn from his mistakes and train harder. The guy still has a lot of fights left in him to work his way back up.

He can get a TS in two fights (so a year) if he wants to. But he'll probably need longer than that to work on his grappling and a gameplan for Stipe/Cain that takes into account his lack of stamina. Weird situation if you think about it. Has a fighter ever said no to a TS to focus on getting better?

 

[Source]

He’s been training for like 5 years. Even if he had been training ground stuff, it wouldn’t be enough to stop someone that’s been wrestling their whole life.

You’re right, at this point he shouldn’t even waste his time.

 

[mikehunt]

Beating a 50 year old Couture, an overzealous Mir who he outweighed by close to 50lbs and a gassed out Carwin ain't shit. Not to mention, Lesnar was juiced to the gills.

 

[Trifick]

In a way this is good news for Ngannou fans. Imagine if he was simply just that bad after years of training. There's nowhere to go but up.

He's 31, bro. It's a little late.

 

[fartsniffer]

Beating a 50 year old Couture, an overzealous Mir who he outweighed by close to 50lbs and a gassed out Carwin ain't shit. Not to mention, Lesnar was juiced to the gills.

lol someone is mad because Brock is HW GOAT.

 

[rorschach51]

Lol exactly, N'Gannou went into this fight going "Wrestling? Takedown defense? Don't need it!" Love the man, but to neglect wrestling and his overall ground game to bank on landing one shot was boneheaded by both him and his team. If they weren't being yes men hyping him up, they would have drilled Takedown defense and how not to throw himself off balance throwing long punches.

Your other av was so much sweeter, good post.

I said on multiple occasions leading up to the fight that Francis was not ready for Stipe, and that he needed at least another 1 year & 2-3 more fights against good comp to be closer to ready for someone as experienced and well rounded as Miocic, who was not going to fight stupid like Reem. That should have been blatantly obvious for all who have watched Stipe fight, and know he was good skill and fight IQ unlike Reem or Arlovski.

 

[Lay N Pray 101]

lol someone is mad because Brock is HW GOAT.

Hahahahahaha!!!
No, no the fuck he's not.
5-3.
4-3 record in the UFC.
PED user.
Scared to get hit.

 

[Big Tuppy Hole]

Ufc performance institute making champions

 

[Race Freelie]

Francis looked like a top fuel dragster on an open wheel road course.

 

[Black Paladin]

nah crack doesnt actually make you crazy. it is the homeless desolate existence combined with crack that makes people break.


that said. Rogan is smoking crack.

The mayor of Toronto was homeless? He was living in City Hall?
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/aug/11/rob-ford-crack-video-release

 

[nanika]

The mayor of Toronto was homeless? He was living in City Hall?
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/aug/11/rob-ford-crack-video-release

nah he was just trying to achieve the American Dream

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marion_Barry