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Sir Elzio Dennick said:
Comparing his numbers vs everybody else it's very realistic to have him in that 11-15ish all time ranking.

Most unaware of just how powerful his numbers are.
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Brady
Manning
Brees
Big Rape
Stafford
Montana
Young
Aikman
Elway
Marino
Mahomo
Rodgers
Favre

Then you have the “fringe” guys like Rivers, Warner, Vick

The historical guys like Moon, Unitas, Bradshaw

Then the dudes playing now like Allen and Jackson, Goof, who would have to fall off a cliff in the next 5 years.

You can throw like 5-6 more names in there but Russ aint cracking any ball-knower’s top 20, let alone top 15-11
 
Da Speeit said:
Brady
Manning
Brees
Big Rape
Stafford
Montana
Young
Aikman
Elway
Marino
Mahomo
Rodgers
Favre

Then you have the “fringe” guys like Rivers, Warner, Vick

The historical guys like Moon, Unitas, Bradshaw

Then the dudes playing now like Allen and Jackson, Goof, who would have to fall off a cliff in the next 5 years.

You can throw like 5-6 more names in there but Russ aint cracking any ball-knower’s top 20, let alone top 15-11
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If Allen and Jackson keep their production at their current rate for another 3 seasons they pass Russell easily
 
Da Speeit said:
Brady
Manning
Brees
Big Rape
Stafford
Montana
Young
Aikman
Elway
Marino
Mahomo
Rodgers
Favre

Then you have the “fringe” guys like Rivers, Warner, Vick

The historical guys like Moon, Unitas, Bradshaw

Then the dudes playing now like Allen and Jackson, Goof, who would have to fall off a cliff in the next 5 years.

You can throw like 5-6 more names in there but Russ aint cracking any ball-knower’s top 20, let alone top 15-11
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Well lets see.....

Wilson is histories only QB with over 5000 rushing yards and ovr 46,000 passing yards,

10 pro bowls

His combined career comp%/passer rating is better than Tom Brady and most you listed,

He is number five all time......QB rushing/TD/INT ratio/passer rating

Number 12 all time in TD passes

Number 12 all time in wins

Now add the fact he did win a Superbowl, something, Hall of Famers.......Dan Marino, Warren Moon, Jim Kelly, John Unitas Fran Tarkenton, Dan Fouts,,,,,,never did.


Dd I really see Vick and Bradshaw up there, ha~~~~~~~~~~
 
Wilson had a GREAT first decade of his career, on a par with anyone if talking....

Wins, Pro Bowls, rushing, TD/INT ratio, comp%, passing TD's, and Denver. Pitt and tme Giants knew all that. That is why they wanted him.

Yes age hit him hard, now his 5-11 is a big deal an old 5-11 just won't work for him.

But, other than the ultimate elite, Wilson's numbers are as good as the rest.
 
Kowboy On Sherdog said:
How many votes did he have ?
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Ya know that TOP 100 PLAYERS, thing voted on by the players, that's what I'm talking about, thinking that was 2021ish.

Take a few minutes and actually educate yourself about his stats, something you obviously haven't done.


While here......

Dan Marino was a FAR better QB than Terry Bradshaw, not close at all.

Forget.....Bradshaw won FOUR Superbowls, he also played on a team with 9 future Hall of Famers. Any decent QB would have won,

Bradshaws stats are terrible, talking terrible.
 
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Revolver said:
Wilson has one second team all pro and never received a mvp vote. That's all I really need to see. He barely cracks top 25. lmao @ pro bowls.
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Many of the greats from the 80's and 90's would have feasted with NFL's ruleset that Wilson has played under. Imagine what Marino would have done with WRs not getting murdered on crossing routes every play.
 
Revolver said:
Wilson has one second team all pro and never received a mvp vote. That's all I really need to see. He barely cracks top 25. lmao @ pro bowls.
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So you pay no attention to....

passer rating
pro bowls
playoff success
comp%
TD/INT ratio
rushing yards
passing yards
wins
passing TD

Well if you did you'd find Russell Wilson mentioned all over the place.
 
Sir Elzio Dennick said:
So you pay no attention to....

passer rating
pro bowls
playoff success
comp%
TD/INT ratio
rushing yards
passing yards
wins
passing TD

Well if you did you'd find Russell Wilson mentioned all over the place.
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wins and playoff success are team based. he was on one of the most stacked rosters and had one of the best defenses of all time to carry him. Even then he couldn't stop from throwing a game ending pick to lose a super bowl. Maybe if he had one two instead of one I'd rank him higher.

A lot of the other stats are inflated because of the era. There will be a ton of qbs from here on out that blow his numbers away. Looking at his stats he had a really good 5 year run and the rest are incredibly average with the last 3 years being awful and he's only 36 which is kind of young for a QB these days.
 
It's very obvious most of you simply don't know what Wilson put up in his career, if you did know you'd be oing what I do, yep......top 11-15ish al time.

The guys numbers are outstanding.......

First NFL QB all time to......first two seasons a 100 passer rating
ONLY QB with over 5000 rushing/46.000 passing yards
Who had more than 10 pro bowls
Who has a better career comp%/passer rating combined......well?
Two Superbowls his first three seasons
He walked right in and took over no sitting the bench like.....Mahomes, Brady, Rodgers,

The guy had a great career,
 
Sir Elzio Dennick said:
It's very obvious most of you simply don't know what Wilson put up in his career, if you did know you'd be oing what I do, yep......top 11-15ish al time.

The guys numbers are outstanding.......

First NFL QB all time to......first two seasons a 100 passer rating
ONLY QB with over 5000 rushing/46.000 passing yards
Who had more than 10 pro bowls
Who has a better career comp%/passer rating combined......well?
Two Superbowls his first three seasons
He walked right in and took over no sitting the bench like.....Mahomes, Brady, Rodgers,

The guy had a great career,
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He's better than Brady for sure!
 
Revolver said:
wins and playoff success are team based. he was on one of the most stacked rosters and had one of the best defenses of all time to carry him. Even then he couldn't stop from throwing a game ending pick to lose a super bowl. Maybe if he had one two instead of one I'd rank him higher.

A lot of the other stats are inflated because of the era. There will be a ton of qbs from here on out that blow his numbers away. Looking at his stats he had a really good 5 year run and the rest are incredibly average with the last 3 years being awful and he's only 36 which is kind of young for a QB these days.
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The guy never had a Hall of Fame caliber WR or TE, no Stallworth/Swann like Bradshaw, no Berry/Mackey/Moore like Unitas,no Duper/Clayton like Marino, etc etc.

You don't ignore his comp%, his passer rating ALL those pro bowls. Why would you?

Yes Wilson had great stats for a decade, as good as it got to be honest.

The most productive DUAL PURPOSE QB in history.
 
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