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NFL Discussion: Lmr vs Mahomo

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NFL invented new passing rules for Peyton and the result was Tom leaving him in the distance lol
 
Brady is the best ever by basically every single metric. Stats arent all and Ships arent all, but hes got them both and its not close.
 
Peyton has been shown teaching receivers how to run their routes, Peyton isn't just stats and 2 great receivers and Edge, the dude was a scheming genius. At the line pre-snap or even post snap his reads were incredible. The smartest player of all times.

Smartest doesn't equal greatest though but possibly.

And not saying he's just stats and great receivers(his teams were great in a lot of ways). But most QB's in this argument haven't relied on that or anything close to it for most of their career if not all of it.
 
Peyton has been shown teaching receivers how to run their routes, Peyton isn't just stats and 2 great receivers and Edge, the dude was a scheming genius. At the line pre-snap or even post snap his reads were incredible. The smartest player of all times.
Brady was just doing this weeks ago. Peyton’s ability to pick defenses apart was amazing, but its pretty hard to try to measure one over the other in that regard.
 
No one is saying Peyton is the greatest QB ever. From a talent perspective he was always better than Brady.
 
No one is saying Peyton is the greatest QB ever. From a talent perspective he was always better than Brady.
Agree. So were/are: Godgers, Montana, Young, Luck, Wilson, Mahomo, etc.
 
Agree. So were/are: Godgers, Montana, Young, Luck, Wilson, Mahomo, etc.
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None of the above have such sick fucking posters. Brady has pics of him making out with his son and fondling a baby goat.

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None of the above have such sick fucking posters. Brady has pics of him making out with his son and fondling a baby goat.

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Yes. Elway was insanely gifted.
Right, my objection was saying he surpassed him in skill.
I feel it. Id really like brady to fuck off. He may be the most game competitor ive ever seen, in any sport.
 
With Mahomes and Lamar this should have never been a discussion. Mahomes had one of the best statistical seasons a QB ever had as a rookie and with a tiny amount of luck would have started his career with 2 superbowls in a row. Lamar's an above average QB who IMO doesn't compare favorably to previous dual threats like Michael Vick,Cam Newton and Steve McNair in the air on the ground.

People both fans and the media underrated Lamar when he was drafted and after his first year they overcompensated too far in the other direction. The way Lamar was overhyped for breaking Vicks record is exactly why y/a stats should hold weight over raw yards stats. I don't know why football relies on yards and touchdown totals there's just no reason for it especially when you change the number of games every few decades. While Jackson threw for a lot of TD's he barely threw for 3000 yards which is not anything special in for a QB in this era. His running no doubt made Lamar a monster in short yardage situations and there's nothing wrong with his arm or anything but people pretending Lamar was on the same level as Mahomes or Wilson was always insane.

And there's an element of secondhand overrating where Lamar dominated an overrated team like the Patriots(which according to who you listened to in the media last year was supposed to go 16-0 again). If you overrate a team by so much and they get destroyed, that is going to just carry the issue over.

Made a thread on here last year where I argued Russell Wilson (or Michael Thomas if players other than QB's were eligible for the award) should have been the MVP last year rather than Lamar Jackson. This opinion is aging like a fine wine.
 
In this shit storm of a season, Bolles has been a welcome surprise. By far their best lineman.

 
Brady was just doing this weeks ago. Peyton’s ability to pick defenses apart was amazing, but its pretty hard to try to measure one over the other in that regard.

Brady has never come close to Peyton my man, not even close. Pretty sure Brady named his first born Checkdown because he couldn't read shit for years.
 
In this shit storm of a season, Bolles has been a welcome surprise. By far their best lineman.


Cool to see him playing so well. Looks like he will get some decent pay from another team next year.
 
Cool to see him playing so well. Looks like he will get some decent pay from another team next year.
Another gamble but I can’t knock Elway for that. He showed almost no progression last year.
 
Brady has never come close to Peyton my man, not even close. Pretty sure Brady named his first born Checkdown because he couldn't read shit for years.
You are aware that Brady isn't a black QB right?
 
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