NFL Discussion: Draft Day Looms

[NewbZor]

Whooooooooo draft week!

 

[Gregolian]

You are pretty clearly understating his physical potential. If he were just a big guy with a strong arm, he wouldn't be talked about as a 1st round prospect. Just like Tom Savage wasn't, just like Zach Mettenberger wasn't.

He's obviously far from a finished product, but his ability is still tremendous.

He's going to be a can. Same as Rosen.

 

[Dizzy]

 

[Gregolian]

Gotta do something to keep the fans interested that doesn't involve Mike Evans getting a suspension cause Rapeis is a fucking dumbshit.

 

[FLYOVER BOSSMAN]

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Lmfao

Pizza Hut, the new NFL pizza provider, is offering free pizza for the year to the 78th pick of the draft (3rd round, 14th pick)

3.14

 

[INeedARemedy]

For kicks I might rank these qbs based solely off how intelligent I think they are and see how that works. Would be interesting to look back at the list after 5 years and see how it turned out

 

[PUO3]

Whooooooooo draft week!

 

[Makani]

This draft can't get here soon enough. NFL off-season is the most painful in sports, just swirling clouds of bullshit.

 

[Gregolian]

The list of injuries Luke Falk played through at WSU includes: broken wrist, broken finger, broken ribs. Pain management for the broken wrist he nursed all last season? “I’d pop a few Advil before games,” Falk said.

Luke Falk >>>>> all these other can QBs in the draft

 

[Trotsky]

He's going to be a can. Same as Rosen.

Probably, but saying he's only a body and arm is just false. The guy has unbelievable natural talent. He's nowhere near the prospect that elite guys like Luck, Goff, and Manning were, but he has more raw physical talent than any of them. His movement, dexterity, and ability to zip out throws from any angle reminds me of Rodgers.

My bigger concerns wouldn't be the completion percentage, but what caused it. It was chiefly that he played in a ludicrous backyard-style system.

 

[Gregolian]

My bigger concerns wouldn't be the completion percentage, but what caused it. It was chiefly that he played in a ludicrous backyard-style system.

To be fair that's what our (what position do we play) team's offense for the last 3 years.

 

[Revolver]

The more I watch Allen the more I want to put him at number one with Rosen. Any other year Allen would be the best qb of the draft. Incredible to have two HoF potential talents at qb like those two.

 

[Trotsky]

To be fair that's what our (what position do we play) team's offense for the last 3 years.

That's exactly what I said when I watched his games. It was uncannily similar to Green Bay's "Broken Play on 3" system the past few years.

I don't know if it's because, like us, he had receivers who couldn't separate and a coach with a brain tumor and his head stuck in a Doritos bag....but yeah.

 

[NewbZor]

Probably, but saying he's only a body and arm is just false. The guy has unbelievable natural talent. He's nowhere near the prospect that elite guys like Luck, Goff, and Manning were, but he has more raw physical talent than any of them. His movement, dexterity, and ability to zip out throws from any angle reminds me of Rodgers.

My bigger concerns wouldn't be the completion percentage, but what caused it. It was chiefly that he played in a ludicrous backyard-style system.

Meh I think people get caught up on this. His arm is crazy - 70 MPH velocity, "feather passes 50+ mph", exact same release time as Tom Brady, but for how smart he supposedly is there are so many breakdowns on how he doesn't understand the basic stuff. Like counting rushers vs blockers which is fundamental stuff. His QB rating vs the Blitz is like half that of all the other QBs. Things like accuracy, throwing with anticipation, understanding a defense >>>> pure arm strength. And give me a Peyton Manning/Tom Brady statue that can slide in the pocket over a pure athlete QB that bails from the pocket any day.

 

[Trotsky]

Meh I think people get caught up on this. His arm is crazy - 70 MPH velocity, "feather passes 50+ mph", exact same release time as Tom Brady, but for how smart he supposedly is there are so many breakdowns on how he doesn't understand the basic stuff. Like counting rushers vs blockers which is fundamental stuff. His QB rating vs the Blitz is like half that of all the other QBs. Things like accuracy, throwing with anticipation, understanding a defense >>>> pure arm strength. And give me a Peyton Manning/Tom Brady statue that can slide in the pocket over a pure athlete QB that bails from the pocket any day.

Yeah, I wasn't talking in terms of velocity, but ability to cleanly deliver.

I would agree that he needs at least a year behind a clipboard.

And if he gets taken by the Browns, god forbid, his career will be over before it starts.

 

[Final Rehab]

Have you watched the guy? Im not making this up. He had an awful career and throws some of the dumbest, worst shit imagineable.

Jawalrus isnt the only big armed, tall QB to be a can. Its a very common theme.

Drafting project players is one thing, taking them with a top pick is another.

Here is a really, really good write up on him. Highlights of his arm strength, athleticism, and absolutely shit QB play.
https://www.diehards.com/national/film-room-josh-allen-good-bad-ugly-mysterious-nfl-draft-prospect

Pretty thorough breakdown there. Honestly I had never heard of Allen until his name came up in pre-draft chatter. I don't watch much college ball and Wyoming football isn't big here in NC.

Your disdain for Allen just seems particularly impassioned and the Jawalrus effect cannot be underestimated.

I tend to lean toward him being a bust. Allen to Denver at #5, make it happen Elway.

 

[BKMMAFAN]

Consensus in Cleveland (fans and journalists) seems to be Darnold at 1, with most having Chubb at 4. Possibly Barkley or Fitzpatrick/Ward. There may be mass seppuku if the Clowns take Allen.

 

[OnionKnight86]

The more I watch Allen the more I want to put him at number one with Rosen. Any other year Allen would be the best qb of the draft. Incredible to have two HoF potential talents at qb like those two.

Do you want your bills/Seahawks/panthers/eagles
To take Allen?

 

[Gregolian]

Do you want your bills/Seahawks/panthers/eagles
To take Allen?

Well... 3 of those 4 teams don't need a QB and at least 2 won't have a chance to get him so.....

 

[Stargazer Rex]

Well... 3 of those 4 teams don't need a QB and at least 2 won't have a chance to get him so.....

Hi, Greg. It's me your pal Rex!