New York City plans to push Affirmative Action in their top high school.s

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Just another day in America as New York mayor De Blasio is getting read to make it harder for Asians to get into New York's top high schools by pushing for changing in testing in order to get into high school in a manner that let's less Asian people in. This is some sick stuff right now. Every day countless Asians work extremely hard to give their kids a better life. The kids work extremely hard to do well in school. Rather than be rewarded the Mayor wants to put the Asian kids in the back of the bus and give those spots to Hispanic and Black kids. Well what is going to happen when the Asian kids keep performing well at the top high school and the other kids fall behind? Are we going to start having affirmative action in grading? There is no sense to this. These are poor immigrants that have come to America from China and Vietnam to try and make a better life and the government is discriminating against them based off the color of their skin. This is not right.

http://pix11.com/2018/06/04/de-blas...ools-more-diverse-meets-opposition-criticism/
SUNSET PARK, Brooklyn — It's a measure meant to make the city's most selective public high schools more representative of New York City, but it has also sparked outrage among some city families, particularly some of those with children currently enrolled in those schools, or currently prepping for the test to gain admission.

"Yesterday's policy was the last straw!" said John Chan, president of the Coalition of Asian-Americans for Civil Rights, or CAACR, in a fiery speech on Monday afternoon, translated from Chinese, his native language.

His organization had gathered dozens of mostly Asian community leaders to protest Mayor Bill de Blasio's proposal to change the way prospective students are admitted into the eight elite public high schools. Asian New Yorkers, according to CAACR and the city, have the highest yield of applicants.

Mayor de Blasio unveiled a new admission plan on Friday afternoon, which some criticized as being released when few people were watching. The mayor's rollout also came without consultation with the Asian community, its leaders said. They were further critical because the mayor's proposal is scheduled for a vote on Wednesday in Albany, before many people with a stake in the process can weigh in.




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But weigh in people did at the impromptu news conference on Monday, before a packed room of Asian community leaders and activists.

"[De Blasio] took our money instead of helping us out," Asian civil rights leader Chan said through a translator.

His was the first of at least a dozen speeches, all of which expressed negative feelings, ranging from disgust to disappointment to outrage.

The mayor has laid out a two-part proposal, which would replace the current system, in which the city administers the test. Students who get above a baseline score gain admission.

Under Mayor de Blasio's plan, the city test would be replaced by a selection process in which students with the highest middle school grades, combined with the highest state test scores, would gain admission. The mayor's proposal would also set aside more admission spots for low-income students, who would attend a summer preparatory session, before entering the schools.




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It's intended to change current inequities. In 2018, blacks and Latinos make up 67 percent of all public school students,according to the Department of Education. However, only 10 percent of those admitted to the city's eight most selective high schools are black or Latino.

One of those schools is Brooklyn Tech, from which David Lee graduated 40 years ago. Lee, now education committee chair of Chinese American Citizens Alliance of Greater New York — the country's oldest Asian civil rights group — said he personally advocated for millions of dollar" for test prep classes for non-Asian students from underserved communities. Better test preparation for applicants of color, he said, gets "more students into these schools."

Particularly in the case of the city's three oldest selective high schools, Stuyvesant, Bronx Science and Brooklyn Tech, the state legislature has to determine whether or not the mayor's proposal can be implemented. There's no indication that there are enough votes currently for the de Blasio proposal to pass.

The mayor's proposal may benefit him more than it does students, CUNY Graduate Center education professor David Bloomfield said.




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"This is important for Bill de Blasio's political legacy," Prof. Bloomfield said, adding that it is not at all likely that the mayor's plan will pass the legislature.

"It won't happen," Bloomfield told PIX11 News. But by making the proposal, de Blasio "still has put his stake in the ground."

City Hall has defended the proposal with a variety of statements from de Blasio press secretary Eric Phillips.

“There are a lot of Asian kids -- many from low-income families — who aren’t treated fairly by the single-test system, too,” Phillips said in a recent tweet.

But the Coalition of Asian-Americans for Civil Rights has organized a 2 p.m. Tuesday rally outside of Mayor De Blasio’s office to protest. They’re holding a second protest on Sunday at 1:00 p.m.
 
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Not in favour of affirmative actions, but I am also sick of Asian crying about being hard done by.
 
Not in favour of affirmative actions, but I am also sick of Asian crying about being hard done by.

How so? Is it okay to give a Asians spot to someone else just so that there are less Asians?
 
Discriminating in order to manipulate the racial makeup of the schools sounds racist.
 
some really thrilling discussion in this thread guy awesome
 
Asians should take their outrage to the polls and quit voting for leftist candidates, the left will never have sympathy for you. The left doesn't want equality of opportunity, they want equality of results. That's bad news for a group that excels at outperforming everybody else.
 
It's not affirmative action if it's still merit based...which it is.

Highest Middle School grades coupled with highest state test scores.
 
It's not affirmative action if it's still merit based...which it is.

Highest Middle School grades coupled with highest state test scores.

The way it reads is that they are setting aside more spots for "low income students". Who don't have to meet the requirement in grades.
 
It's not affirmative action if it's still merit based...which it is.

Highest Middle School grades coupled with highest state test scores.

The current test is true merit based whereas the new model would isolate each high school and take high scorers from the each high school rather than take the top from the entire pool. That has a disparate impact on the Asian community at the very least
 
Although TS's statement sounds intuitively plausible, the reality is that color-blind policies often put racial minorities at a disadvantage. For instance, all else being equal, color-blind seniority systems tend to protect White workers against job layoffs, because senior employees are usually White. Likewise, color-blind college admissions favor White students because of their earlier educational advantages. Unless preexisting inequities are corrected or otherwise taken into account, color-blind policies do not correct racial injustice -- they reinforce it.
 
Although TS's statement sounds intuitively plausible, the reality is that color-blind policies often put racial minorities at a disadvantage. For instance, all else being equal, color-blind seniority systems tend to protect White workers against job layoffs, because senior employees are usually White. Likewise, color-blind college admissions favor White students because of their earlier educational advantages. Unless preexisting inequities are corrected or otherwise taken into account, color-blind policies do not correct racial injustice -- they reinforce it.

All of this is disproved by the fact that these policies impact 2nd generation East Asians the most
 
All of this is disproved by the fact that these policies impact 2nd generation East Asians the most
AA was intended only to redress discrimination in hiring and academic admissions. In assessing the value of affirmative action, the central question is merely this: In the absence of sweeping societal reforms -- unlikely to take place any time soon -- does affirmative action help counteract the continuing injustice caused by discrimination? The research record suggests, unequivocally, that it does.
 
AA was intended only to redress discrimination in hiring and academic admissions. In assessing the value of affirmative action, the central question is merely this: In the absence of sweeping societal reforms -- unlikely to take place any time soon -- does affirmative action help counteract the continuing injustice caused by discrimination? The research record suggests, unequivocally, that it does.
AA is discrimination and injustice of the worst kind, unapologetic favoritism by race. It's especially laughable at elite institutions.
 
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