New gun laws in Georgia

[Blood Python]

#7 says for "renewing." you might still need to get fingerprinted to obtain your original chl.

 

[ruthless robert]

http://www.nbcnews.com/#/news/investigations/what-georgias-extreme-new-gun-law-allows-n87491


"Critics have called the law

 

[jehosafats]

No I am the other kind of flag bagger.

And sorry if you feel I am picking on you, just interested is all, its such a vastly different mindset than any I encounter in my life.

Don't worry. I find them flippin' nuts and we live in the same country.

 

[ruthless robert]

No I am the other kind of flag bagger.

And sorry if you feel I am picking on you, just interested is all, its such a vastly different mindset than any I encounter in my life.

This is because you and most others are brainwashed. Or at the very least your mind is conditioned to only think a certain way.

If a cop were to walk around in public, at a school, chruch, etc. most people wouldn't even think twice about it. What they see is a human that is keeping them safe with a gun.

What I see is a human with a gun. This human is supposed to be good and obey the same laws everyone else does. But i know there are some cops that are not so good and do not obey the law however for the most part they are good and they do obey the law so they're accepted and people dont think twice about them having a gun in public. If we are so blindly okay with a human having a gun in public then why not be okay at the same notion for another human that just doesn't have a badge? Most other humans are good and obey the same laws so whats the difference?

A cop is a good guy with a gun. Anytime something goes wrong people call 911, why is that? Because good guys with a gun show up to stop the wrong doing. Therefore I would want as many good guys with a gun around me where ever i go. You dont need a badge in order to be a good person and obey the law.

 

[oldshadow]

Howdy Old Shadow

I tend to agree with you in threads like these. But this is and instance when I have to disagree. What firearm I carry, when I carry it, and how I carry it is no one else's business. I also don't know of any other constitutionally guaranteed right that requires a licence and finger prints in order to exercise.

I see this as yet another unnecessary hoop to jump through in order to get a licence to legally do what shouldn't even require a permit in the first place (concealed carry).

What compelling arguments for manditory finger printing have you come across?

My only question was a background check for concealed carry and I'm on the fence about that.

 

[ej38]

Hmm, both of us have a CHL and both of us live in DFW..... however we dont see eye to eye on 6 and 7. I agree with them and think it puts a halt to a registery and eventual confiscation list..... 99.9% of the people who are law breakers aren't going to legally obtain firearms so creating a registery/confiscation list for the law abiding is very wrong.

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Whats the reasoning behind no fingerprinting for chl renews?

Thats the one that makes the least sense to me.

 

[ruthless robert]

Whats the reasoning behind no fingerprinting for chl renews?

Thats the one that makes the least sense to me.

Farmer Br0wn said it best.

What firearm I carry, when I carry it, and how I carry it is no one else's business. I also don't know of any other constitutionally guaranteed right that requires a license and finger prints in order to exercise.

I see this as yet another unnecessary hoop to jump through in order to get a license to legally do what shouldn't even require a permit in the first place (concealed carry).

What compelling arguments for manditory finger printing have you come across?

 

[livingdeadmoose]

Agree with all except for the schools, but still, good job Georgia.

 

[o'dubhlaoich]

Never let someone brainwash you into thinking that following the constitution is extreme.

 

[Long Dark Blues]

I don't see a problem with any of them.

Here in PA we can carry literally everywhere but federal buildings and K-12 schools and we only get fingerprinted when we 1st apply for a carry permit, renewal doesn't require any fingerprinting.

Gun violence outside of Philadelphia and inner-city Allentown is almost nonexistent. Go figure.

You were fingerprinted for your LTCF?!

There is no requirement to be fingerprinted in PA.

 

[Long Dark Blues]

As for so-called "databases"; although we have an actual amendment to the PA State Constitution prohibiting anyone from creating a registry, the state police keeps one any way and gets away with it by insisting that your gun doesn't have to be on the list for it to be legal, hence it's not technically a "registry". The problem is cops don't care and regularly confiscate personal firearms that are lawfully owned but aren't on the list.

This is true, it's a database of sales/transfers. So, technically not a registry.

 

[kpt018]

And you think the battles just magically occur at any point in time with only seconds warning?
And so he needs to be prepared for this Battle 24/7 even while in church, school or drinking a few on a thursday eve?

I don't see the government being able to turn tyranical and launch into battle before the average citizen could go to his car or home and get his gun.

Ironically, many of these same people also support increases to military spending (the government they are "defending against").

Let's be honest, many Americans like guns and just want to keep them. And that's ok with me. I just hate the 2nd amendment arguments because that shit is so outdated and inconsistent with their other positions (like military spending).

 

[Farmer Br0wn]

Whats the reasoning behind no fingerprinting for chl renews?

Thats the one that makes the least sense to me.

What's the reasoning behind fingerprinting people for exercising a constitutional right in the first place? You're in essence asking permission to exercise a right. If you have to ask permission, it's not a right.


We need to start treating our rights like rights.

 

[Farmer Br0wn]

Ironically, many of these same people also support increases to military spending

Not me. We need to starve the beast named "Government".

 

[kpt018]

Not me. We need to starve the beast named "Government".

Yeah, whatever that means.

 

[spamking]

whoops. Pretty self explanatory here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constitutional_Carry

Well I'll be . . . I wonder if this has stood up in any court cases.

Guess I'll have to check things out more.

 

[spamking]

That's fucking awesome. Bravo Oklahoma.

The bill that was introduced to cover this was called the "Piers Morgan Constitutional Right to Keep and Bear Arms Without Infringement Act". :icon_lol:

 

[Farmer Br0wn]

Yeah, whatever that means.

It means exactly what it says. Government has in both breadth and depth, infiltrated every aspect of an individuals private life. It's time to start rolling that back. Luckily for us all, this idea is starting to gain more and more momentum by the day.

 

[kpt018]

It means exactly what it says. Government has in both breadth and depth, infiltrated every aspect of an individuals private life. It's time to start rolling that back. Luckily for us all, this idea is starting to gain more and more momentum by the day.

What you are saying is so broad and non-specific I don't have a specific response. I don't even know what you are referring to when you say government has infiltrated every aspect of an individual's life.

Fundamentally, it sounds like we agree on the concept that government should stay the hell out of people's personal lives. For example, I am pro-choice and support SSM because I don't think it's the government's damn business or anyone's for that matter. Maybe we agree, but IDK based on your posts.

I'm pretty sure we disagree on the government's role in protecting our environment, the economy and defense, among others.

 

[Farmer Br0wn]

What you are saying is so broad and non-specific I don't have a specific response. I don't even know what you are referring to when you say government has infiltrated every aspect of an individual's life.

Fundamentally, it sounds like we agree on the concept that government should stay the hell out of people's personal lives. For example, I am pro-choice and support SSM because I don't think it's the government's damn business or anyone's for that matter. Maybe we agree, but IDK based on your posts.

I'm pretty sure we disagree on the government's role in protecting our environment, the economy and defense, among others.

Forgive my acronym ignorance, what dose SSM mean?