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New gun laws in Georgia

45ACP said:
We can carry legally in bars here in PA and it simply has never been an issue. There aren't even any laws against being intoxicated while carrying.
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How many people have to get shot in a bar for it to be a problem? Because if you're saying that NO ONE has ever been shot inside a Pennsylvania bar then I can pretty much assure you that is simply not the case.
 
Maybe the church is a better place to have a gun than at home. People should just keep their guns in the church and never bring them home.

"Those persons with guns in the home were at greater risk than those without guns in the home of dying from a homicide in the home (adjusted odds ratio = 1.9, 95% confidence interval: 1.1, 3.4). They were also at greater risk of dying from a firearm homicide, but risk varied by age and whether the person was living with others at the time of death. The risk of dying from a suicide in the home was greater for males in homes with guns than for males without guns in the home (adjusted odds ratio = 10.4, 95% confidence interval: 5.8, 18.9). Persons with guns in the home were also more likely to have died from suicide committed with a firearm than from one committed by using a different method (adjusted odds ratio = 31.1, 95% confidence interval: 19.5, 49.6). Results show that regardless of storage practice, type of gun, or number of firearms in the home, having a gun in the home was associated with an increased risk of firearm homicide and firearm suicide in the home."

http://aje.oxfordjournals.org/content/160/10/929.full
 
I'm fine with all provisions except 5, depending on what it means. For example, it seems reasonable to me that court buildings have metal detectors and don't allow people with guns in. Saying it is for rural communities is a bit misleading unless it somehow specifically details a restrictive set of conditions.
 
Heard they also made it so that active duty under the age of 21 no longer need a permit for concealed carry.
 
Carrying guns in a bar. What could possibly go wrong?
 
I personally don't see a need for citizens to protect themselves from a tyranical government when they are in schools, bars and churches.

Therefore I don't see this as a 2nd amendment thing, unless there is some bit in there about gun being needed for self defence from other citizens.

So is there another part of the constitution that covers this?
Honest question.
 
HIMBOB said:
I personally don't see a need for citizens to protect themselves from a tyranical government when they are in schools, bars and churches.

Therefore I don't see this as a 2nd amendment thing, unless there is some bit in there about gun being needed for self defence from other citizens.

So is there another part of the constitution that covers this?
Honest question.
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Many Americans simply read the 2nd amendment:

"A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed."

......and we think it means what it says. Our right to keep and bear arms SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED.

I really have a hard time seeing why this is a debate. The only people who try and nitpick the wording of the 2nd amendment are people who already didn't like firearms and are just looking for an excuse to get rid of them.
 
HIMBOB said:
I personally don't see a need for citizens to protect themselves from a tyranical government when they are in schools, bars and churches.

Therefore I don't see this as a 2nd amendment thing, unless there is some bit in there about gun being needed for self defence from other citizens.
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That's the well-regulated part. You should be used to carrying it around so that if and when a need arises you're comfortable with your weapon.
 
Cubo de Sangre said:
That's the well-regulated part. You should be used to carrying it around so that if and when a need arises you're comfortable with your weapon.
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How is a single guy walking around with a gun "well regulated"?
 
HIMBOB said:
How is a single guy walking around with a gun "well regulated"?
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I just told you. He's learning to wear it comfortably. You think militias just have guns magically appear moments before battle or do you figure the people in the militia need to carry them from place to place in order to put them to use?
 
jk7707 said:
Carrying guns in a bar. What could possibly go wrong?
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Good thing Georgia already has an obscene murder rate. This law allows legal gun owners to carry into bars too, instead of just the criminals.
 
Cubo de Sangre said:
I just told you. He's learning to wear it comfortably. You think militias just have guns magically appear moments before battle or do you figure the people in the militia need to carry them from place to place in order to put them to use?
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And you think the battles just magically occur at any point in time with only seconds warning?
And so he needs to be prepared for this Battle 24/7 even while in church, school or drinking a few on a thursday eve?

I don't see the government being able to turn tyranical and launch into battle before the average citizen could go to his car or home and get his gun.
 
Uchi Mata said:
The last two provisions are dumb. Why no fingerprinting or DB of owners? It would make it a lot easier to track stolen guns and I don't really see how it harms lawful gun owners. The rest of the stuff is somewhat silly posturing. People can bring concealed weapons wherever they like, they're concealed. Unless you're making them pass through a metal detector it's a law with no teeth. As much as I dislike guns and the excessive love of guns displayed by many on the right I'm not naive enough to think gun free zones do anything useful.
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Not all that different from a registry, though instead of cataloging items, they're doing it to people who have done nothing wrong. It makes it easier to fuck over a whole group of otherwise law abiding citizens, while not actually impacting crime but padding statistics. When the wrong group of people are targeted, there's something wrong with the system.
 
HIMBOB said:
And you think the battles just magically occur at any point in time with only seconds warning?
And so he needs to be prepared for this Battle 24/7 even while in church, school or drinking a few on a thursday eve?

I don't see the government being able to turn tyranical and launch into battle before the average citizen could go to his car or home and get his gun.
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Didn't you see the new red dawn? They'd barely woken up before the commandos were on the ground.
 
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