Neck Crank Injuries?

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Hey guys, I'm a new white belt(and to the forum) that has been training for a little bit and I was just hoping for some advice.

Earlier today I was mounted and he quickly put one arm around my neck and the other over my forehead really quickly and before I could tap my neck popped twice. I laid there for awhile and it hurt but eventually I was able to get decent range of motion and now it is only a little stiff. He told me later that it was called a neck crank.

Now my question is should I get it checked out still? I was reading a few horror stories of people that get injured via neck cranks and how a few days after their injury they started losing strength on certain sides of their body and going numb.

I feel ok right now minus mild stiffness. I took anti-inflammatories and i'm now icing but is this ok to leave alone? I've never had a neck injury.

Also if someone could explain a way to defend against. It all happened so quickly. Thanks guys I appreciate any input.
 
Hi welcome to the forum

I'm not really an expert in injuries but didnt want your first thread to go un-answered.

Ive had my neck hurt for a couple of days after being spiked when someone tri-podded me when I was taking their back and I just face planted into the mat. After a couple of days the pain went and Ive no bad side effects.

Ive had my neck popped a couple of times too But on any occasion with them if never felt bad pain so just ignored it.

Only you know how much impact your neck received and by making this thread it shows your concerned about it so I would say go and get it checked out.
 
Personally, if my neck popped twice I'd get it checked out just to be on the safe side. If your range of motion is coming back and it's sore then you're probably better off drilling or not training until you feel better. If you start to feel numbness, pain, or loss of muscle tone in your neck, shoulder, chest, arms, or fingers (numbness), you should go to the doctor as they are signs of disc issues or nerve impingement.

I don't know the details or how your instructor is but someone mounting you and doing a neck crank to the point your neck pops strikes me as an asshole, especially since you're a white belt. You and your partners safety should always be the highest priority. A lot of new people don't even know what is going on or how much trouble they're in with neck cranks until they're leaving with pain (or worse).
 
i would just rest up a bit and try not to aggravate it. ive had my neck popped quit a few times, the only problem is you become more prone to injury the more it happens. so try not to get caught in any more lol. and if youre new to grappling, your training partner shouldnt be putting you in 0 to 60 type submissions (neck cranks, heel hooks, etc)
 
Sivo The Ram said:
i would just rest up a bit and try not to aggravate it. ive had my neck popped quit a few times, the only problem is you become more prone to injury the more it happens. so try not to get caught in any more lol. and if youre new to grappling, your training partner shouldnt be putting you in 0 to 60 type submissions (neck cranks, heel hooks, etc)
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Exactly what I was thinking
 
Thanks for the welcome and quick replies guys. I'll try to get it checked out tomorrow and schedule an appointment with my doctor.

And my instructor is great, it was another white belt with two stripes and it was randori so my instructor didn't see. I go pretty often and I haven't seen that move taught before. I'm guessing that its a technique for higher belts? I didn't know what to expect and thought I was about to get choked. Well thanks again guys I feel a little more at ease.

Is there any defense to this. I know prevention is the best medicine but I don't wanna be a deer in the headlights if it happens again. I can only tap so fast.
 
A proper neck crank isn't a "0-60" submission. Done properly one should have enough control over his opponents body to allow him to apply the submission as slowly and as gradually as he likes. Sadly there're always the idiots who think simply grabbing and twisting someone's head actually qualifies as a technique, and they ruin things for the rest of us neck crank aficionados who actually know what we're doing.
 
And to answer the OP's question, quite frankly it sounds like you were rolling with a spaz who tried to make something up and call it a "neck crank".
 
Definitely a douchebag training partner. And, I'm sure a lot of docs would say an X-ray probably wouldn't hurt. But, chances are you're a-okay.
 
Don't roll with that guy anymore. It's not worth getting injured.
 
Is this something I should bring up to my instructor? I don't wanna be "that" guy that complains cuz he got beaten, but at the same time I don't want anyone else to get hurt.
 
Rolling Thunder said:
Is this something I should bring up to my instructor? I don't wanna be "that" guy that complains cuz he got beaten, but at the same time I don't want anyone else to get hurt.
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just keep an eye out on him, and tell him dont do stuff like that. and to defend a neck crank, the first thing is to not get caught in them lol. worry about wrist control and dont let them get their hands back their. if they are going for a can opener type crank (where they are trying to open your guard, and have both elbows on your chest, hands around your head and are trying to push your chin down in your chest), you should straighten your neck, tuck your arms inside theirs, place both hands on their chin and push up (i hope that makes sense, so much easier to just show than type haha)
 
It was gi, I can't do no gi until I have two stripes.

And Sivo that did make sense thank you. I guess I just have to have more situation and body awareness cuz it happened so fast.
 
BJJ Beginner said:
A proper neck crank isn't a "0-60" submission. Done properly one should have enough control over his opponents body to allow him to apply the submission as slowly and as gradually as he likes. Sadly there're always the idiots who think simply grabbing and twisting someone's head actually qualifies as a technique, and they ruin things for the rest of us neck crank aficionados who actually know what we're doing.
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some like can openers and head scissors arent but if you get caught in a grovit front face lock and the guy decides to put his hips in it...it feels like your neck is gonna break haha, no time to react
 
Rolling Thunder said:
It was gi, I can't do no gi until I have two stripes.

And Sivo that did make sense thank you. I guess I just have to have more situation and body awareness cuz it happened so fast.
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the more you practice, the more you'll be aware of what the other guy is trying to do. the most difficult neck crank to stop or even see coming are the ones that kinda happen by accident. like if a guy is going for a rear naked choke and then turns it into a neck crank, or a failed armbar from mount and then the guy goes for a head scissors ! now that hurts haha
 
A two stripe white belt going for neck cranks in gi, sounds like you're dealing with a spaz.
 
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