***NBA Thread v2: Peng Shuai > Qing James***

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BAM said:
Zion is fat but also super muscular, which is going to make him look abnormally large.

This doesn't bode well for him long term in just general living. Usually guys like him don't get fat until after they are retired:

Top 15 Athletes Who Gained A Ton Of Weight After Retirement (thesportster.com)
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Also it's hard to lose weight when your foots injured, especially for a guy like zion who gets his cardio from playing. I think he'll lose weight once he starts playing then he'll need to get his diet right by the time he's 30.
 
Chris Kyle is a liar said:
Giannis isn't a center and he's not the best player in the league
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Well he's 6'11" and rules the paint like an angry pit bull chained in a junk yard. He will wreak havoc on the small team the Warriors have and they will have no answer for him. All I have to say is they better hope the Nets knock the Bucks out because they don't want that smoke.
 
Chris Kyle is a liar said:
Also it's hard to lose weight when your foots injured, especially for a guy like zion who gets his cardio from playing. I think he'll lose weight once he starts playing then he'll need to get his diet right by the time he's 30.
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you can do a lot of cardio in the water, if you wanted to
 
MusterX said:
Well he's 6'11" and rules the paint like an angry pit bull chained in a junk yard. He will wreak havoc on the small team the Warriors have and they will have no answer for him. All I have to say is they better hope the Nets knock the Bucks out because they don't want that smoke.
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So you think Giannis will wreck the warriors but not the nets? You think KD or LMA is better at defense than Draymond? Giannis will average his 30ppg but your are out of your mind if you think Looney and Draymond won't make him work hard for it. Then he's gonna have to run back on defense because when the warriors play small they play fast, warriors gonna have the whole bucks gassed like they did the suns with Ayton.
 
Chris Kyle is a liar said:
So you think Giannis will wreck the warriors but not the nets? You think KD or LMA is better at defense than Draymond? Giannis will average his 30ppg but your are out of your mind if you think Looney and Draymond won't make him work hard for it. Then he's gonna have to run back on defense because when the warriors play small they play fast, warriors gonna have the whole bucks gassed like they did the suns with Ayton.
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Giannis runs a lot better than Ayton and is a straight dawg on both ends . Giannis broke Ayton last year. Bucks Fully Healthy vs Warriors and Suns is closer than you think , you just have Homer eyes. If Klay is Healthy and is comfortable with the pace of play again it's a different story .
 
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Luka , better start being more disinclined with his diet in the off-season because for this season and last he reported to camp at 260lbs . Eventually that's going to Catch up to him ballooning up them dropped weight. His optimal playing weird is between 225-230.
 
heavyarms21 said:
Giannis runs a lot better than Ayton and is a straight dawg on both ends . Giannis broke Ayton last year. Bucks Fully Healthy vs Warriors and Suns is closer than you think , you just have Homer eyes. If Klay is Healthy and is comfortable with the pace of play again it's a different story .
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I'm not a homer at all, I call it like I see it. Can the bucks beat the warriors? Absolutely. But it won't be because giannis is taller than the warriors starters, that's a childish way to view basketball.
 
heavyarms21 said:
Luka , better start being more disinclined with his diet in the off-season because for this season and last he reported to camp at 260lbs . Eventually that's going to Catch up to him ballooning up them dropped weight. His optimal playing weird is between 225-230.
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I'm in Dallas and I can tell you that shit is not going unnoticed by fans. He's a great talent, highly skilled, but he tries to coast on that talent and doesn't give 100% when it comes to meeting his full potential. I watch most of the Mavs games and even now, 20+ games into the season he looks about 15-20 pounds heavier than he needs to be.
 
Chris Kyle is a liar said:
I'm not a homer at all, I call it like I see it. Can the bucks beat the warriors? Absolutely. But it won't be because giannis is taller than the warriors starters, that's a childish way to view basketball.
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I never said that. I don't any one defender that can stop Giannis individually, but defenses can wall off the Lane because he is most dangerous when he is attacking the rim , difference between last year vice when the Raptors with Kahwi is that Jrue Holiday is better than Eric Blodsoe and Malolm Brogden. The Warriors can make Green the Primary guy on Giannis and offer up good help defense, so it will be on Middletown and Holiday to make enough shots so that Giannis gets some pressure taken off. The biggest x-factor the Bucks is that Brook Lopez hasn't played since opening night when they Smoked the Nets , which is why they signed Demarcus Cousins, but Demarcus doesn't offer the same solid defense Lopez assisted Giannis in. The Bucks are finally healthy and have won 10 of the lat 11 so look like they won't give up the East crown so easily, but Giannis workload will be bigger this season if they don't find a guy they trust to fill in for Lopez or get him back.
 
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Chris Kyle is a liar said:
I'm not a homer at all, I call it like I see it. Can the bucks beat the warriors? Absolutely. But it won't be because giannis is taller than the warriors starters, that's a childish way to view basketball.
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Childish? I guess we'll just throw 7 decades of ball in the trash. The way you match up with the other team has always been a factor. Its the reason why last year 6'1" Patrick Beverley was benched against 6'7" Luka in the playoffs because Luka kept yelling "he's too small" and ass raping Beverley on national television. The Warriors have a size problem. They shoot incredibly well but they have the potential to get abused by a KD, Ginannis, or even an A game AD.
 
MusterX said:
I'm in Dallas and I can tell you that shit is not going unnoticed by fans. He's a great talent, highly skilled, but he tries to coast on that talent and doesn't give 100% when it comes to meeting his full potential. I watch most of the Mavs games and even now, 20+ games into the season he looks about 15-20 pounds heavier than he needs to be.
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It's maddening because the dude is super talented and is just plain good at basketball.

This is Blasphemy because I'm a Lakers fan, but I think Kobe was an overrated basketball talent especially compared to Jordan, Jordan had a quicker 1st step , was more explosive and had a a higher vertical. From a pure athlete standpoint he was solid . What helped him build his legacy is that he was possibly more obsessed with winning and being great as Jordan was, he knew he had to work harder. Tracy McGrady was waaaay more talented than Kobe but he didn't work as hard or have Kobes discipline.

I hope Luka discovers that.
 
heavyarms21 said:
It's maddening because the dude is super talented and is just plain good at basketball.

This is Blasphemy because I'm a Lakers fan, but I think Kobe was an overrated basketball talent especially compared to Jordan, Jordan had a quicker 1st step , was more explosive and had a a higher vertical. From a pure athlete standpoint he was solid . What helped him build his legacy is that he was possibly more obsessed with winning and being great as Jordan was, he knew he had to work harder. Tracy McGrady was waaaay more talented than Kobe but he didn't work as hard or have Kobes discipline.

I hope Luka discovers that.
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I wouldn't say Kobe is overrated. Its hard to say a guy is overrated who won 5 chips, 3-peated and almost get a second 3-peat but was stopped by that 2011 Mavs squad. As far as Luka, I think he started so young in Europe and had so much success he's always just relied on his skill and didn't worry if he wasn't in the greatest shape. As good as he is, he could be even better and I think we all hope he realizes it at some point.
 
MusterX said:
Childish? I guess we'll just throw 7 decades of ball in the trash. The way you match up with the other team has always been a factor. Its the reason why last year 6'1" Patrick Beverley was benched against 6'7" Luka in the playoffs because Luka kept yelling "he's too small" and ass raping Beverley on national television. The Warriors have a size problem. They shoot incredibly well but they have the potential to get abused by a KD, Ginannis, or even an A game AD.
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Dude Luka was eating up Morris and PG too, and I'll agree with you that point guards just aren't good at defense no matter how hard they try. But warriors have multiple guys with 7ft wingspans. What's funny is they have a 7fter in wiseman who has a 7'6 wingspan. Height matters to a certain extent, but wingspan and skill are a lot more important to the way the warriors play.
 
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