Locked NBA Finals Thread.

[heavyarms21]

Yep, I know, he's an all time great player. He's not better than Jordan though.
Jordan on Defense
He was the first player in history to be selected to 9 All Defensive First teams.
He was the first player in history to get 200 steals and 100 blocks in a season, it has still only been done by 3 players. (Michael did it twice).
He was the steals leader 3 times.
He's the only guard in history, relative to his position, both in the Top 5 for blocks and Top 5 for steals.
He was the defensive Player of the Year and Scoring Champion in the same year, the only player in history to accomplish this.
His 131 blocks for the 1988 season is still the most blocks in a season by a guard in NBA history.

What part of Jordan is my Number 1 don't you get. I'm just defending LeBron because it's trendy to hate on him , especially now that Corey tied him rings. Naw Corey isn't in the conversation.

 

[MusterX]

What part of Jordan is my Number 1 don't you get. I'm just defending LeBron because it's trendy to hate on him , especially now that Corey tied him rings. Naw Corey isn't in the conversation.

My problem with Curry is not what happens if he retires with 4 rings but what happens if he wins more. What if he gets his 5th next year? What are people going to say then? I don't even like Lebron but I feel sorry for him if Curry continues to win rings because Curry fans are going to puke that number out against Lebron fans forever.

 

[heavyarms21]

My problem with Curry is not what happens if he retires with 4 rings but what happens if he wins more. What if he gets his 5th next year? What are people going to say then? I don't even like Lebron but I feel sorry for him if Curry continues to win rings because Curry fans are going to puke that number out against Lebron fans forever.

Curry effectively makes that team deadly but let's not ignore he is also the one you specifically attack if you are the offense , but that GSW has had very good defense through the years to overcome that.

 

[skysolo]

I really don't like Marcus Smart. He's a flopper and he is careless and dangerous.

He gets bumped in this video, but he clearly throws himself to the ground to try to get a foul call. Unfortunately, his teammate is right by him and get rolled up. Smart doesn't check on Williams. He is complaining about the foul.

 

[Fugazy]

Kareem also had Oscar and Magic for all of his titles and Majority of his career. LeBron by no means played with scrubs but relative to ERA , Oscar and Magic were way better than anyone LeBron ever played with. Also LeBrons peak defensive years 2008-2013 he was literally one of the best defensive players in the NBA and was easily the best help or weakside defender and should have been in the running for DPOY in 2013 and he doesn't get enough credit for his defense in his prime years.

LeBron could have played with studs his entire career but he wanted to play GM and tamper all over the league, but he’s still has had some runs with really good players.

And I remember when LeBron used to play defense as well. He then decided all at once to stop. Outside of the occasional splash play he hasn’t committed to actually playing defense in years.

 

[heavyarms21]

LeBron could have played with studs his entire career but he wanted to play GM and tamper all over the league, but he’s still has had some runs with really good players.

And I remember when LeBron used to play defense as well. He then decided all at once to stop. Outside of the occasional splash play he hasn’t committed to actually playing defense in years.

The defensive rating and defensive win shares of his peak years was higher than Giannis when he won DPOY. Plus LeBrons drop off in defense was the clear indicator of getting older as he was definitely conserving that energy for key match ups.

 

[Revolver]

The defensive rating and defensive win shares of his peak years was higher than Giannis when he won DPOY. Plus LeBrons drop off in defense was the clear indicator of getting older as he was definitely conserving that energy for key match ups.

Don’t waste your time. The same dudes who bring up legoats defense these last few years ignore Fitp’s non defense his entire career. Most of the ones who say he’s not top 3 just hate his politics. They like cucks like Corey instead.

 

[heavyarms21]

Don’t waste your time. The same dudes who bring up legoats defense these last few years ignore Fitp’s non defense his entire career. Most of the ones who say he’s not top 3 just hate his politics. They like cucks like Corey instead.

Meh this is why we argue , even if people are stubborn. When numbers don't work we can point out that some dude that let's his wife peg him and allows her to get railed by other dudes will never be the GOAT, that goes beyond stats.

 

[Fugazy]

The defensive rating and defensive win shares of his peak years was higher than Giannis when he won DPOY. Plus LeBrons drop off in defense was the clear indicator of getting older as he was definitely conserving that energy for key match ups.

I watched a lot of his play, he flat out decided to stop trying on defense. We can call it what we like, him being judicious, whatever, doesn’t matter. The point is everyone wants to put him on a pedestal that he isn’t on, and this is one of the reasons why. Every single person itt has seen LeBron quit on defense or flat out not even try for major chunks of his career, season after season.

 

[heavyarms21]

I watched a lot of his play, he flat out decided to stop trying on defense. We can call it what we like, him being judicious, whatever, doesn’t matter. The point is everyone wants to put him on a pedestal that he isn’t on, and this is one of the reasons why. Every single person itt has seen LeBron quit on defense or flat out not even try for major chunks of his career, season after season.

This is why he isn't my GOAT but to suggest he isn't Top 3 is ludicrous to me . If John Cena was a real athlete that's what LeBron is , he literally illicits the strongest reactions good or bad there is rarely a happy medium. People talk about LeBron quiting on plays because he is dissected and scrutinized more than any player . Bringing a fucking title to Cleveland which is literally the dumpster fire of Sports towns is a feat in and of itself. Plus the dude has averaged 38 mins a game for close to years playing a usage heavy style that's has seen him log literally thousands of miles of time on his feet, if anything he needed to take out of Tim Duncan's book and do more load management and just not play in games that didn't matter.

 

[Vogg]

Lebron has had to guard 1-5 his whole career and has done a damn good job. Anyone saying otherwise is just hating lol

he blows up screens, passing lanes, directs traffic, wrecks fast breaks, defends the perimeter and beats guys in the post but he apparently is a bad defender Lmao

he’s arguably the greatest defender ever, in fact he is

 

[Fugazy]

This is why he isn't my GOAT but to suggest he isn't Top 3 is ludicrous to me . If John Cena was a real athlete that's what LeBron is , he literally illicits the strongest reactions good or bad there is rarely a happy medium. People talk about LeBron quiting on plays because he is dissected and scrutinized more than any player . Bringing a fucking title to Cleveland which is literally the dumpster fire of Sports towns is a feat in and of itself. Plus the dude has averaged 38 mins a game for close to years playing a usage heavy style that's has seen him log literally thousands of miles of time on his feet, if anything he needed to take out of Tim Duncan's book and do more load management and just not play in games that didn't matter.

Cena brah? Jesus man get control of your emotions.

He’s more like Matthew Stafford. And he does load manage, how have you not noticed?

 

[Fugazy]

Lebron has had to guard 1-5 his whole career and has done a damn good job. Anyone saying otherwise is just hating lol

he blows up screens, passing lanes, directs traffic, wrecks fast breaks, defends the perimeter and beats guys in the post but he apparently is a bad defender Lmao

he’s arguably the greatest defender ever, in fact he is

Yeah and he drives the bus from the hotel for the team and cooks them all dinner too. Shit I heard he sweeps the arena floor and wipes down all the toilets after the fans leave.

 

[heavyarms21]

Cena brah? Jesus man get control of your emotions.

He’s more like Matthew Stafford.

No , waaaay more people like Stafford than hate him. It's not his fault Detroit was just poorly Run.

 

[heavyarms21]

Yeah and he drives the bus from the hotel for the team and cooks them all dinner too. Shit I heard he sweeps the arena floor and wipes down all the toilets after the fans leave.

What are you on about, even Giannis , who I think is the current best player still had Lebron has his best player, he did from the Hunters perspective, Lebron is the biggest fucking fish. Yeah LeBron is a Shitty GM , that's on him that he ended up recruiting a Guy that went full Retard Westbrick last year. Years of LeBron Mushroom Stamping Milwaukee has traumatized you.

 

[Fugazy]

Don’t waste your time. The same dudes who bring up legoats defense these last few years ignore Fitp’s non defense his entire career. Most of the ones who say he’s not top 3 just hate his politics. They like cucks like Corey instead.

They have the same awful politics. And LeBron fakes hates crimes and wears wigs but Steph lets people fuck his wife, while LeBron lets other men fuck him on (and likely off) the court (we all know him and Wade had a fling or 2) so that’s all a wash.

No one is trying to make the case for Steph being #1, I rank him at ~17th in my personal record book. LeBron is somewhere between 4 and 22 depending on how much touchbutt he’s been playing with AD on any given day.

 

[Fugazy]

No , waaaay more people like Stafford than hate him. It's not his fault Detroit was just poorly Run.

Im not talking about how people like or don’t like him. I always liked Stafford and I don’t hate LeBron, but he had to go to a Superteam to win just like Stafford.

 

[Fugazy]

What are you on about, even Giannis , who I think is the current best player still had Lebron has his best player, he did from the Hunters perspective, Lebron is the biggest fucking fish. Yeah LeBron is a Shitty GM , that's on him that he ended up recruiting a Guy that went full Retard Westbrick last year. Years of LeBron Mushroom Stamping Milwaukee has traumatized you.

IG you couldn’t tell that the post I was replying to was joking when he called LeBron the greatest defender of all time.

I’m not traumatized, I just tell the truth. You’re the one in here dropping F bombs and invoking John Fucking Cena.

In the world of wrestling LeBron is a poor man’s Big Show at best. That you think comparing him to Cena proves how good he is is actually awful, they are both just long running roided out stat compilers, frontrunning, carried by others and thriving in a softer era.

 

[heavyarms21]

Im not talking about how people like or don’t like him. I always liked Stafford and I don’t hate LeBron, but he had to go to a Superteam to win just like Stafford.

Oh fucking christ , as Boston didn't do it a full 2 Season before LeBron joined the Heat. Also if you think the Cleveland team 2016 was a superteam you need to get your head checked, it was a Team Built around him that had spacing and defense But Kyrie and Love are borderline HOFs that never even made the Yoffs until LeBron teamed them up.

 

[heavyarms21]

IG you couldn’t tell that the post I was replying to was joking when he called LeBron the greatest defender of all time.

I’m not traumatized, I just tell the truth. You’re the one in here dropping F bombs and invoking John Fucking Cena.

In the world of wrestling LeBron is a poor man’s Big Show at best. That you think comparing him to Cena proves how good he is is actually awful, they are both just long running roided out stat compilers, frontrunning, carried by others and thriving in a softer era.

Naw you just have these dumbass takes when it comes to LeBron.