Navy Pilot Describes U.F.O. Encounters

[Jack Handy jr]

So the conclusion of the highly anticipated UFO report is there is no conclusion? Sounds like aliens to me.

I didn't get my hopes up for Official Disclosure...

They need to try to continue to control the Narrative as "aliens" being a threat..when they know that there's no such thing as an alien like we've been programmed and conditioned through TV X-Files, and Movies to think all this is disinformation that is building the back story for the biggest False Flag Op ever.

 

[MusterX]

I think most people WANT these things to be from alien civilization.

Can you explain it otherwise?

 

[MusterX]

Document obtained from FOIA shows the government has been tracking these objects since at least 1950.

0:47-3:28 "Luis Elizondo and his organization have obtained a government document that proves the advanced Tic-Tac U.F.O. has been tracked by military intel services for at least 70 years. That's much earlier than we thought."

1:15-3:28 Elizondo: "This is a document that was obtained through the freedom of information act and it demonstrates quite clearly that we have had issues with these U.A.P/U.F.O.s for at least 70 years, at least since 1950, probably earlier and this is official U.S. government correspondence. This isn't some eye witness report from a civilian. This is official government documentation from military personnel to various senior military brass and what it says very quite compelling is that look we've had a lot of military and intelligence eye witnesses to include special agents and scientists and all of them were seeing these things and more importantly the frequency has occurred on a regular and continuing basis over sensitive U.S. military facilities and this has been occurring since 1950 according to official U.S. government documentation so think about that for a minute when we talk about that on the backdrop of this recent revelation that the U.S. government has finally admitted that this is not some sort of secret U.S. technology."

"That's great, we already knew that but now there is some sort of wiggle room to say this is some sort of adversarial foreign technology. Here is the problem with that theory because we know that the Russians, after the Berlin Wall came down, they shared a lot of information with us. there was this 5 year period or so, this new romance between us and Russia where they shared a lot of their U.F.O. information with is and by the way they were seeing exactly the same thing in their skies that we were so we're sure its not Russian."

"The only other option would be China but lets look at that. You are talking about a country that somehow for 70 years has kept this technology that was at least 1,000 years ahead of us, kept it secret, was able to deploy it against us all the way back in 1950, by the way, this is the same county that steals billions of dollars worth of our technology each year trying to keep a competitive advantage to this day with our country."

 

[Aegon Spengler]

I think most people WANT these things to be from alien civilization.

Don't you? I really want them to be from an alien civilization. Because that means we're not alone in the universe, which means that when we destroy ourselves and everything else on Earth, it's a little less tragic.

 

[MusterX]

Don't you? I really want them to be from an alien civilization. Because that means we're not alone in the universe, which means that when we destroy ourselves and everything else on Earth, it's a little less tragic.

At the end of the video in the post above yours, Tucker and Elizondo discuss the fact that these sightings coincide around military installations, especially nuclear technology beginning at or before 1950. The 1940's is when we developed nuclear tech. Maybe that's what set off all the "watching."

 

[Aegon Spengler]

At the end of the video in the post above yours, Tucker and Elizondo discuss the fact that these sightings coincide around military installations, especially nuclear technology beginning at or before 1950. The 1940's is when we developed nuclear tech. Maybe that's what set off all the "watching."

Perhaps! I also have to wonder if aliens would have any concept of “free will” or choice. Perhaps they simply watch because that’s what they are.

From what I understand about the rarity of plate tectonics in our solar system (we’re the only planet that has it) and the placement of the tic tac as per David Fravor, my guess is they’re diving into the ocean to examine the movement of our plates - or, perhaps, they’re testing to see ocean acidification levels - both interesting phenomena that our scientists might try to examine on other planets without wanting to disturb the locals

 

[IloveTHIS]

You guys remember the UFO incident over the White House in the 1950s?

As far as I know it still to this day has not been explained away as something mundane.

The O'Hare airport incident was a big deal too. Most of the pics online are UNVERIFIED and very possibly photoshopped but there was something over the airport that shut it down. A very real incident that the claim was a rare cloud lol

 

[MusterX]

Perhaps! I also have to wonder if aliens would have any concept of “free will” or choice. Perhaps they simply watch because that’s what they are.

From what I understand about the rarity of plate tectonics in our solar system (we’re the only planet that has it) and the placement of the tic tac as per David Fravor, my guess is they’re diving into the ocean to examine the movement of our plates - or, perhaps, they’re testing to see ocean acidification levels - both interesting phenomena that our scientists might try to examine on other planets without wanting to disturb the locals

Yea all that's possible, its also possible that its been easiest to hide in the Oceans from us. Think of it as a base of operations when they can launch their craft to do whatever it is they do. As I posted in Post #391, the Shag Harbor incident was in 1967 and a U.F.O. was witnessed by multiple people including the police flying into the harbor and going under water. Also, Speaking of "free will" and choice, there is a theory that we we are seeing isn't even the builders so to speak but just drones operated by advanced A.I. that are doing what they were programed or sent to do.

 

[MusterX]

You guys remember the UFO incident over the White House in the 1950s?

As far as I know it still to this day has not been explained away as something mundane.

The O'Hare airport incident was a big deal too. Most of the pics online are UNVERIFIED and very possibly photoshopped but there was something over the airport that shut it down. A very real incident that the claim was a rare cloud lol

@Jack Handy jr posted this pic of the O'Hare incident U.F.O. in Post #141.

Th interesting thing about the O'Hare incident is that it was witnessed by multiple people in broad daylight over an international airport and then it was pretty much swept under the rug like it never happened. What that makes me wonder is if the Men in Black or some other government agency makes sure that this shit is attributed to "swamp gas" or in this case a weird cloud formation. The people that witnessed the O'Hare U.F.O. see aircraft every single day and could not identify what they were seeing.

 

[90 50]

Yea all that's possible, its also possible that its been easiest to hide in the Oceans from us. Think of it as a base of operations when they can launch their craft to do whatever it is they do. As I posted in Post #391, the Shag Harbor incident was in 1967 and a U.F.O. was witnessed by multiple people including the police flying into the harbor and going under water. Also, Speaking of "free will" and choice, there is a theory that we we are seeing isn't even the builders so to speak but just drones operated by advanced A.I. that are doing what they were programed or sent to do.

advanced ai drones is the most plausible and what I would beleive too

 

[Rob Battisti]

@bobgeese makes a good point.

You don’t have a congressional investigation that ends with “oh well, we don’t know what this is”. If it’s NOT ours and it was anywhere close to our navy we wouldn’t just shrug our shoulders.

Which definitely means we have some awareness of what it is and they just aren’t telling us. So, either ours or we know who it is.

 

[MusterX]

@bobgeese makes a good point.

You don’t have a congressional investigation that ends with “oh well, we don’t know what this is”. If it’s NOT ours and it was anywhere close to our navy we wouldn’t just shrug our shoulders.

Which definitely means we have some awareness of what it is and they just aren’t telling us. So, either ours or we know who it is.

I don't think its ours, or anyone else's for that matter. Look above in Post #423 I made earlier tonight. A newly released document reveals we have been tracking these craft since at least 1950.

 

[Rob Battisti]

I don't think its ours, or anyone else's for that matter. Look above in Post #423 I made earlier tonight. A newly released document reveals we have been tracking these craft since at least 1950.

I agree with you. I believe if it’s transmedium, it’s extraterrestrial. I need better evidence of it being transmedium. But that’s all she wrote in my mind to be 100% convinced. I’m 80% convinced right now it’s extraterrestrial. What I mean is that we(the government) KNOW it’s extraterrestrial.

 

[Jack Handy jr]

@Jack Handy jr posted this pic of the O'Hare incident U.F.O. in Post #141.

The interesting thing about the O'Hare incident is that it was witnessed by multiple people in broad daylight over an international airport and then it was pretty much swept under the rug like it never happened. What that makes me wonder is if the Men in Black or some other government agency makes sure that this shit is attributed to "swamp gas" or in this case a weird cloud formation. The people that witnessed the O'Hare U.F.O. see aircraft every single day and could not identify what they were seeing.

Pilots on the ground reported this thing over gate C-17,Ramp workers, and mechanics.

After it was over United Airlines, actually forbade any of its employees from talking about it. BTW it took me a while to find this pic on the web, I 've seen a much clearer photo bit using all the search engines i couldn't find it..hmmm

I know Dr Tyson said on JRE "why are the pics always blurry" I think these crafts are using some kind of straight up Romulan Warbird like Cloaking tech.

Who really knows? Bob Lazar, Richard Dolan, andJim Marrs said that through their sources the UFO subject has a higher Security Classification then our most sensitive Nuclear Weapons secrets.

 

[Jack Handy jr]

I agree with you. I believe if it’s transmedium, it’s extraterrestrial. I need better evidence of it being transmedium. But that’s all she wrote in my mind to be 100% convinced. I’m 80% convinced right now it’s extraterrestrial. What I mean is that we(the government) KNOW it’s extraterrestrial.

I don't i know man I've vacillated between these crafts being Above Top secret Aero space platforms(TR-3B/Aurora), and Aliens. This whole topic grabs you and wont let go, no matter how headache inducing, frustrating, and fascinating it may be. Take a look at this guy's Vid I posted earlier in the thread.



My working Thesis after researching this topic for the past 15 years is as follows....

1. The Nazi's were in contact with Extra Terrestrials or Inter Dimensional Beings through Occult Workings conducted by the Vrill Society.
Vril - Wikipedia

Apparently the SS summoned these "Aliens" through Witchcraft who in turned gave them Knowledge on how to build advanced weaponry...Sounds an awful lot like The Watchers Teaching our Ancient ancestor whos name was either Vulcan, or Tubal Cain, or Hephaestus, how to build weapons of War.

2. In Exchange for this advanced Knowledge the Nazi's had to get rid of the Jews, why the Jews you may ask? well that's a long story/explanation.

3. The Allies won WWII and through Op paperclip inherited much of this advanced Aerospace Expertise and Knowledge to build our Defense Companies, and NASA.

4. In 1947 I believe Roswell was our attempt at Flying an ancient Vimana or some super secret Nazi Aircraft design I'm thinking the Hanebu I, or Hanebu II.
Nazi UFOs - Wikipedia

Ep. 9 | The Basement Office | World War II UFOs, Antarctica and Kecksburg Crash | New York Post - YouTube


Artistic impression of a Haunebu-type German flying saucer, similar in appearance to craft allegedly photographed by George Adamski, Reinhold Schmidt, Howard Menger, and Stephen Darbishire.The German UFO theories describe

We crashed it and concocted an Alien Cover...i'm probably wrong on this one.


5. Anti-Gravity research goes into Over drive after Admiral Richard Bird returns from Operation High jump where he stated that his flotilla engaged saucer shaped vehicles that could fly faster than anything he'd seen and describes them as using some kind of Directed Energy weapons against his planes and ships. When you get some time watch the admiral Byrd Interview when he recounts his trips to Antarctica...seriously confusing, and compelling Statements he made.

6. After 1955 all defense industry research on Anti Grav Vehicles go dark and you 've never heard about anything like a Hanebu or any Anti Grav vehicle since., Though what Bob Lazar described as the "Sport Model" may have been some kind of Ancient Archeological discovery is telling. sounds very much like the Vimana's detailed in ancient Indian writings.
Vimana - Wikipedia

7. Dr. Salvatore Pais, recently filed patents that are deemed impossible by the scientific patent review office where @bobgeese posted that the director of Naval Scientific research stated were real...the Patents were then granted by U.S. Patent office.


8. Commander David Fravor, and others Pilots from the "Black Aces" encounter a craft that when described sounds exactly like what Salvatore Pais claims to have created in his patents..also I find it odd that these things just so happen to be appearing at U.S. Navy exercises and CAT points.

9. TTS academy and Luis Elizondo are suddenly everywhere on mainstream media which finally eliminates the chuckle and ridicule factor about this topic. Stating that these things are not ours (which i don't believe), and that they're a threat, and IMO setting Mankind up for the Biggest deception/False Flag in human history.
False flag - Wikipedia

10. I'm still tweaking and revising my UFO/UAP thesis. Give me some time BTW

Don't Be deceived Sherbros.. The Great Deception Mentioned in 2 Thessalonians, and Matthew 24 is upon us.

 

[MusterX]

I don't i know man I've vacillated between these crafts being Above Top secret Aero space platforms(TR-3B/Aurora), and Aliens. This whole topic grabs you and wont let go, no matter how headache inducing, frustrating, and fascinating it may be. Take a look at this guy's Vid I posted earlier in the thread.

I don't think its Above Top Secret aircraft of the U.S. government man. Look above at Post #423 I made last night. We now have government documents showing that we were encountering these craft 70 years ago in 1950, and maybe longer. Included in the posted video at the end they also discuss that we started our nuclear tech in the 1940's and by 1950 we were having these sightings around nuclear installations. In fact, many of the sightings to this day occur in and around some form of nuclear technology.

 

[Benjamin Burton]

This is all misinformation to confuse foreign intelligence

 

[Hades86]

The US Government came out and said these are LEGIT UFO's. Not our Tech and not any Tech known to man. After YEARS of denial and basically only coming out because of the slow drip from the last 20 years and SOME people in our Government wanting transparency.

The US Population " Mehh, Maybe. I don't think so"

Peoples opinions will never change on the matter. The US Government brainwashed them GOOD.

 

[MusterX]

This is all misinformation to confuse foreign intelligence

The level of Psyop that would take would be off the charts. You are talking about official government data, videos, etc. leaked, verified, and then also having people like former president Obama go on television and say yes there are things in the skies we don't understand, then include former heads of the Dept. of Defense as well as the C.I.A. request briefings from the Pentagon on the matter and both also went on record as saying the tech was not ours or anything we understand, then include members of Congress who are getting briefed on the situation because they also are in on it.

Then finally you have to realize they would also be mind-fucking the entire population...all to confuse "foreign intelligence." Man, I think we are WAY beyond a "confuse enemy intelligence" Psyop at this point.

 

[Jack Handy jr]

I don't think its Above Top Secret aircraft of the U.S. government man. Look above at Post #423 I made last night. We now have government documents showing that we were encountering these craft 70 years ago in 1950, and maybe longer. Included in the posted video at the end they also discuss that we started our nuclear tech in the 1940's and by 1950 we were having these sightings around nuclear installations. In fact, many of the sightings to this day occur in and around some form of nuclear technology.

A bro...trust me I get it...But you've known me on sherdog for awhile and you know i have to run all of this truth, lies, occultism, UFO and the Like through my Biblical Filter.

I think the initial Knowledge to create the human version of these vehicle (Ezequiel's Wheels if you will) came from Fallen Angels. Who in modern times were contacted by the Vrill Society for advanced knowledge or foretelling in WW2. Not trying to patronize you or be sarcastic I know you already know what i'm about to state but some lurking/viewing this thread may not.



Now To the uninitiated on this topic

The powers that rule this planet's economic, social, entertainment, and military systems know the truth...they know. Human Society is basically constructed in the form of a hierarchal type of Pyramid with your typical sherdogger (that's me and you) at the bottom of that pyramid as your typical middle class, debt / wage slave, sheep, dumbed down, big phama'd up, M tv, NFL, NBA, Zombie /Disney movie watching, alcohol swilling, drug addicted, food addicted, porn addicted, consuming ignorant drone/worker bee.

And at the Very Top Of that Pyramid is the god of this world's systems you know him as Lucifer, Satan, or Prometheus. The so called Knowledge or Light Bringer by Occultists, and Free Masons of the 33rd degree even call their god well...Lucifer. (i'm not making this shit up)



So this current state of mainstream UFO Discussion, and essentially Soft disclosure by the media that is controlled by the illuminati, Bohemian grove, Vatican, Skull and Bones, 33rd Free mason types. is trying to plant a real, finally non ridicule inducing, seed/concept into our collective heads that an "Alien Threat" Is upon us...The thing is when the mile wide space ship comes upon us it won't be a war or "Independence day" type battle, where our F-22's are dog fighting it out with flying saucers, or Tic Tacs, or whatever.

No IMO It will at first the entire worlds collective attentions will be looking at their TV's, or Phones captivated, exited, scared, anxious about the "Arrival" But Satan comes as a "friend" a deceiver it's arrival will be peaceful because our "Ancient Alien Creator" aka Lucifer will emerge from that "space ship" with all the answers to human problems, and history imo he'll even have proof that he evolved us from some ancient hominid. He'll have his DNA upgrade for us that will make us live forever without sickness aka the Mark of the Beast. His Alien Arrival will be the seminal Moment in Human History He will essentially present himself as our "god"

His arrival will be so profound that he will be able to make a lasting Peace between the longest bloodiest family feud in Human history Abraham's offspring the Muslims, and the Jews will finally sign a Lasting Peace Treaty based on His arrival and the knowledge that this Alien Creator is Yahweh for the Jews... and Allah for the billion or so Muslims....and Vishnu for the billion Hindus...Buddha for the billion + Buddists, Odin for the Heathens and so on.

The True God starts seeing his creation worshipping this thing (voluntarily at first) thus starts the Trumpet, Bowls, and Seals Judgments of mankind mentioned in Revelation..Massive earthquakes, Tsunamis, Novel Diseases and pestilences, Droughts, floods, fires, and mega Storms that will surpass F-5 or Cat 5 hurricanes and tornadoes. causing massive economic collapse/disaster, and we're going to basically have a purge / Mad Max situation in the streets as people esp in cities fight for scarce resources after the Global supply chain breaks down and grinds to a halt. Our New "god" will blame all of these natural calamities and diseases, and droughts on an evil Alien named Jesus.

He will then convince the remaining Armies of this Earth to repel Jesus' Alien Invasion at the Battle of Armageddon. The Occultists and Free Masons HATE the God of the Bible. They've been convinced through their witchcraft and workings that Satan AKA Lucifer AKA our soon to arrive "Alien creator" will win the final battle and they will have a seat at his table to indulge in drunken drug fueled reveling, extreme perversity, hedonism, and the Aleister Crowley mantra of "Do as thou Wilt" see the hellfire club as an example just add in a lot of violence.

My estimation and timeline may be off..but the eventual outcome is decided.

Accept Jesus get saved sherbros.