Nate Diaz in a nutshell

[chinarice]

If GSP wasn’t around he would’ve been champ

No he woudln't. That's 100% a baseless claim.

I have far more evidence to back up he wouldn't be the champ unless numerous guys weren't in the UFC.

Lost to undersized Diego Sanchez in his prime. Lost to eventual LW champion Sean Sherk. Lost to Karo. Lost to Riggs. Lost to Condit. He started winning when he started fighting shittier fighters outside the UFC. There is no point in the history of MMA where Nick Diaz was the best fighter at any weightclass. That's just a fact.

 

[StreetJudas]

No he woudln't. That's 100% a baseless claim.

I have far more evidence to back up he wouldn't be the champ unless numerous guys weren't in the UFC.

Lost to undersized Diego Sanchez in his prime. Lost to eventual LW champion Sean Sherk. Lost to Karo. Lost to Riggs. Lost to Condit. He started winning when he started fighting shittier fighters outside the UFC. There is no point in the history of MMA where Nick Diaz was the best fighter at any weightclass. That's just a fact.

You’re talking about pre prime Nick. Plus he did beat Condit.

Strikeforce competed with the ufc with talent , most strikeforce fighters went on to become ufc champs. It was literally the best 2nd promotion at the time and far better than bellator.

 

[CannotWin]

Nate did come close. He fought for a title

He got completely dominated by Benson.

 

[CannotWin]

Never ufc champ. Both have fought for the title tho.

Never UFC champs, for sure, but a champion nonetheless. And I would argue that Nick was always more of an actual fighter than Nate, who quits midway through tough fights and starts flipping off people. Nate is not a fighter.

 

[StreetJudas]

He got completely dominated by Benson.

He did but he still fought for a title. Bendo wasn’t exactly clean either.

 

[CannotWin]

He did but he still fought for a title. Bendo wasn’t exactly clean either.

Not a Bendo fan in the slightest but was he ever caught doping? All I know about him is Toothpick Gate.

 

[StreetJudas]

Not a Bendo fan in the slightest but was he ever caught doping? All I know about him is Toothpick Gate.

He was accused for years. This was pre USADA when they fought.

 

[chinarice]

You’re talking about pre prime Nick. Plus he did beat Condit.

Strikeforce competed with the ufc with talent , most strikeforce fighters went on to become ufc champs. It was literally the best 2nd promotion at the time and far better than bellator.

Which Strikeforce fighters did Nick beat that became UFC champion? I'll wait.

Literally the 2nd best means nothing when it's extremely distant 2nd.

 

[NaughtyBoy]

At least Nick was a champion, something Nate never came close of doing.

Nate fought for the title. That sounds close.

 

[CannotWin]

Nate fought for the title. That sounds close.

Only for people who did not watch the fight.