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Nate Diaz has become overrated as hell and it plays right into Conor and the UFC's hands

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  1. FootstompShonie Silver Belt

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    When the first match-up was announced, everyone rightfully said this was a BS fight and Diaz did not deserve it.
    Not only was Diaz on vacation while McGregor had been training for months in various locations, but it was at a time when Nate was only 2-3 in his last 5-fights and barely hanging on to a top-10 ranking after beating Micheal Johnson.

    Now all over the media and greater Sherdog area, I see Diaz being hailed as some top-5 fighter who is going to destroy Conor again, this is exactly what the UFC wanted, now what should have been seen as a generally lame-duck opponent for a reigning champion becomes a heroic victory for Conor, with a likely trilogy in the making no less.

    But, when you look at the facts Diaz is a mediocre fighter who is basically a perennial gatekeeper, and if Conor really is a championship level fighter he should dispatch him with ease.

    Let's look at his last 5 fights before Conor:

    W - Micheal Johnson - Coming of a lame loss to Beneil Dariush, but easily his best win of the bunch. Ranked in the top-15.

    L - RDA - Absolutely embarrassed Diaz, probably one of the most one-sided fights in history, Diaz also didn't even bother to make weight.

    W - Maynard - Coming off a vicious KO loss, in the middle of the downturn of his career, unranked.

    L - Josh Thompson - Coming off a loss and Josh's only victory in his UFC stint and he clobbered Diaz, lost 3-straight afterwards and went to Bellator, unranked

    L - Ben Henderson - One of the most one-sided title fights in history, Diaz offered no offense and got beatdown for 5-rounds.

    In short, Diaz hasn't beaten anyone coming off a victory before Conor since 2012, he's only had one top-15 victory in that time span, and he has lost to guys who did absolutely nothing in the UFC like Thompson.

    Yet when Conor goes in and beats him like he should have in the first place, the UFC/Conor and all his fans are going to act like he took down a top-5 world beater. If Conor does lose again I say that speaks more to his legacy as a fighter than it does Nate Diaz and if he gets a title shot he'll be promptly beatdown again by Alvarez, Woodley, or whoever is champion at the time.

    Don't buy the narrative, Diaz-Conor is still a lame match-up that reminds me of when Anderson Silva went up and fought gatekeepers at 205, it should be an easy victory.
     
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  2. Perrichet Arteta is a fraud

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    All the hype for beating a midget. Dude got tooled by Thompson so bad his big bro had to throw in the towel
     
  3. ElCasca Brown Belt

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    Everyone knows Diaz at his best is a fringe top 5, he's not a world beater. But that's still more than enough to beat Conor
     
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    Umm... Diaz is ranked in the top 5 at LW...
     
  6. YoungRonniecoleman Double Yellow Card Double Yellow Card

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    True story. The Conor fans have turned Diaz into an 8 foot tall robot programmed to enslave humans. Reality is he's a true veteran with great skills and grit, but he's not more than that.
     
  7. bambammccoy Red Belt

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    RDA fight wasnt a title fight.
     
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    Dayum, you sound like a Debbie Downer TS. lol
     
  9. Reaperman Brown Belt

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    Diaz loses to guys who can bully him around in the clinch, and with takedowns and top control. Thompson was the exception and caught with a massive head kick (something Conor does not have). Diaz is a really bad matchup for Conor. Conor fans would like to believe his striking is way beyond Nates, but Diaz has slick boxing, along with a granite chin. Conor is in for another bad night......
     
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  11. ElCasca Brown Belt

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    Just a reminder for TS, the RDA fight wasn't for the title
     
  12. FootstompShonie Silver Belt

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    The UFC rankings? That's just proving my point, the UFC has hyped up Diaz as a top-5 guy when he's not. How did he jump to top-5 after going 2-3 in his last 5 from a fight that wasn't even at Lightweight? lmao
     
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  14. basementdweller Black Belt

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    a good poster from france. must be an immigrant!
     
  15. FootstompShonie Silver Belt

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    Yeah my mistake I remembered incorrectly.
     
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    the wikipedia research didn't go too well
     
  17. Tormund Double Yellow Card Double Yellow Card

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    Michael Johnson was ranked #5 when he beat him.
     
  18. Agnawedbone Red Belt

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    Nate Diaz is a legit lightweight contender, something Conor could never be.
     
  19. Toco Steel Belt

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    no, no one is saying that nate is a world beater

    in fact, one of the things that made this loss so embarassing for connie is that nate is a mid tier fighter, and he got humiliated by him

    if connie wins, it still wouldn't be impressive (barring a spetacular round 1 KO or something), because it's still only nate that he would be beating
    if he loses again, it's over for him. 0-3 incoming
     
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    It isn't all too often we agree but you made some really strong points. As a fan of both fighters I can say without doubt that Nate has become a bit overvalued by beating Conor.
     
  21. FootstompShonie Silver Belt

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    He was coming off a loss...in a close fight for sure but he didn't deserve to be anywhere near the top-5.
     

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