Name Pro Wrestler(s) who had a higher ceiling

[DennisHallmansSpeedo]

Owen Hart easily

 

[CrippleWerk]

Owen Hart easily

Did you see his Dark Side of the Ring episode? They talk about how he was about to hit his peak of popularity when he died. It would have taken a couple more years but he probably would've eventually been the third biggest star after Austin and Rock.

 

[DennisHallmansSpeedo]

Did you see his Dark Side of the Ring episode? They talk about how he was about to hit his peak of popularity when he died. It would have taken a couple more years but he probably would've eventually been the third biggest star after Austin and Rock.

Him being Bretts little brother and simply having the Hart name surely helped. Would’ve loved to see him not die lol.

 

[White Whale]

Ernest “The Cat” Miller he was getting major heat from the crowds in WCW.

 

[Wariowokecancel]

Him being Bretts little brother and simply having the Hart name surely helped. Would’ve loved to see him not die lol.

I had to triple check if these posts are about Owen or Pillman. Owen was a fantastic dude, great wrestler but... ?

Then again Austin was a midcard bum in WCW. So what the fuck do I know.

 

[DennisHallmansSpeedo]

I had to triple check if these posts are about Owen or Pillman. Owen was a fantastic dude, great wrestler but... ?

Then again Austin was a midcard bum in WCW. So what the fuck do I know.

i like pillman too, him and steve were cool

 

[Fugazy]

Test was a casualty of Russo leaving. They just didn't know what to do with him after the wedding with Steph.

I think making him fight the Taker was a mistake.

I liked Test a lot, but he could never be the big scary guy. He needed his own lane. He couldn’t be Nash either.

 

[El Dandy]

Did you see his Dark Side of the Ring episode? They talk about how he was about to hit his peak of popularity when he died. It would have taken a couple more years but he probably would've eventually been the third biggest star after Austin and Rock.

Owen was one of my favourite wrestlers of all time, but he was never going to hit those levels. His career trajectory was going down at the end.

 

[El Dandy]

Kevin Owens is underpushed, and probably not revivable, but when he came in and beat Cena- with the way he talked and worked, he could’ve been WWEs top heel for half a decade if the machine got behind him.

 

[A Pennysworth]

PAC

 

[tangata motu'a]

I think Chris Masters could have done more

as a little kid master g was my favorite wrestler. the he came to wwf and had a legendary wrestlemania match against jake roberts as george wells. he could have done more

 

[sleepwalk]

Kevin Owens is underpushed, and probably not revivable, but when he came in and beat Cena- with the way he talked and worked, he could’ve been WWEs top heel for half a decade if the machine got behind him.

I always saw him as having a higher ceiling as a Dusty-type everyman babyface than as a heel. Solo, he tops out as one of the best US champs of all time. With a toadie (Sami or Jericho) it just wasn't enough for him to constantly come out on top in this dynamic:

I always said that they should have had a double turn during that feud. Have Owens eke out and escape or a win then have Roman go psycho sore loser after the match. Beat him within an inch of his life. Talk shit in his face about how he's supposed to be the champion. Michael Cole does the JR bit of "You may not like him but, for crying out loud, Kevin Owens has a family!" Get that old time heat. KO was always chasing the laugh as a heel, too. Today's audience would cheer Piper and that's just who KO could have been.

"Haha Roman! All the protein shakes and Hall of Fame family members and you're still just the office's pet project. You can kick my ass all over this arena but, once we get inside those ropes, that's the once place in his world where I'm the champ and you're the chump." These neckbeards and pinkhairs would eat that up like overpriced processed food endorsed by a woke celebrity.

 

[Batjester]

I always saw him as having a higher ceiling as a Dusty-type everyman babyface than as a heel. Solo, he tops out as one of the best US champs of all time. With a toadie (Sami or Jericho) it just wasn't enough for him to constantly come out on top in this dynamic:

I always said that they should have had a double turn during that feud. Have Owens eke out and escape or a win then have Roman go psycho sore loser after the match. Beat him within an inch of his life. Talk shit in his face about how he's supposed to be the champion. Michael Cole does the JR bit of "You may not like him but, for crying out loud, Kevin Owens has a family!" Get that old time heat. KO was always chasing the laugh as a heel, too. Today's audience would cheer Piper and that's just who KO could have been.

"Haha Roman! All the protein shakes and Hall of Fame family members and you're still just the office's pet project. You can kick my ass all over this arena but, once we get inside those ropes, that's the once place in his world where I'm the champ and you're the chump." These neckbeards and pinkhairs would eat that up like overpriced processed food endorsed by a woke celebrity.

Giving Owens the Stunner as his finisher is what really did him in. It doesn't look good, and there is no way he can escape the comparison to Austin.

Should have kept the pop up powerbomb. It was super protected and he could hit it on anyone.

 

[sleepwalk]

Should have kept the pop up powerbomb. It was super protected and he could hit it on anyone.

Disagree with this point as well. The pop up powerbomb looks hokey on most of the main roster. He did it to 280lb Ryback ffs. I was a bigger fan of his bullfrog splash (nothing beats the RoH days with the swanton and package piledrivet.)

 

[Batjester]

Disagree with this point as well. The pop up powerbomb looks hokey on most of the main roster. He did it to 280lb Ryback ffs. I was a bigger fan of his bullfrog splash (nothing beats the RoH days with the swanton and package piledrivet.)

Being able to do it on bigger guys like Ryback and Mark Henry is what makes it better imo. I do think his frog splash would be good, but I don't think anyone can use that as a finisher since Eddie died.

 

[Deleted member 449757]

Owen was one of my favourite wrestlers of all time, but he was never going to hit those levels. His career trajectory was going down at the end.

He also apparently wasn't one of those "wrestler for life" type of personalities but wanted to end his carreer as soon as he financially could to spend time with his family.

 

[El Dandy]

Giving Owens the Stunner as his finisher is what really did him in. It doesn't look good, and there is no way he can escape the comparison to Austin.

Should have kept the pop up powerbomb. It was super protected and he could hit it on anyone.

Agreed. It sucks that the pop up power bomb is just for false finishes now. He should use this as a finish

 

[sleepwalk]

Being able to do it on bigger guys like Ryback and Mark Henry is what makes it better imo. I do think his frog splash would be good, but I don't think anyone can use that as a finisher since Eddie died.

See, I'm not buying it that uncooked biscuit is throwing 300lb men in th ed air like a pizza. It's Destroyer level. But his frog splash is better than Eddie's because it's another 60lbs coming down on the opponent. (And it's not in tribute to a rapist.)

 

[CrippleWerk]

Owen was one of my favourite wrestlers of all time, but he was never going to hit those levels. His career trajectory was going down at the end.

Their argument was look at the guys they pushed after he died that Owen would have had amazing matches with and would have elevated his career starting with Kurt Angle and Chris Jericho then later Benoit, Eddie, Rey, Edge, etc.

He also apparently wasn't one of those "wrestler for life" type of personalities but wanted to end his carreer as soon as he financially could to spend time with his family.

Yeah that's true but he could still have worked on a very limited schedule and have some incredible WM matches with the guys I mentioned. A Brock/Owen match would've been great too.

 

[lakersfan45]

Did you see his Dark Side of the Ring episode? They talk about how he was about to hit his peak of popularity when he died. It would have taken a couple more years but he probably would've eventually been the third biggest star after Austin and Rock.

And they would be completely wrong