My God, they really have been saying boxing is dead for over a century

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I always assumed that was just something people were saying till I stumbled onto these ancient articles. This is a long one and well worth the read. I think everyone here can appreciate this. Some of the text is scramble though.

"boxing is dead" - Google News Archive Search

Some of the quotes here are sig worthy. I read every one of these and love it. In no real order heres some I found most interesting. Bold for emphasis.

1937 - Jack Dempsey knows his own game. When he says boxing will be washed up within a year, unless something's done, he's talking straight from his heart. "It isn't boxing anymore, he complains, "but just a big lawsuit."
Still, when Jack thinks the evils of his former occupation can be cleaned up by appointing a czar-someone like judge landis, who runs organised baseball, there is room for doubt

Jul 22, 1966 - Boxing is dead no question in Jack Dempsey's mindthe fight game is dead there is no fight game to day the former champion said there never will be again.

May 22, 1965 - Boxing is dead not just in Boston but everywhere. Former heavyweight champion Rocky Marciano gave that opinion in an interview recently with the Boston Traveler.

Apr 10, 1941 - They've been saying for. years that boxing is dead. Well, with the 52.000-odd gate for tho Joe louis-tony Musto fuss In St. Louis Tuesday night, the fight game neared the million-and-ahalf dollar mark for the nation's major attractions In this indoor season

May 26, 1965 - "I said boxing is dead, and I guess it's true," said Rocky Marciano sadly. "

"Dec 9, 1903 - Whether the timehonored sport of boxing is dead or only sleeping will probably be demonstrated this month so far as Los Angeles is concerned and the Coliseum Athletic Association which has now completed an uptodate."

"Jun 15, 1906 - Jim Neil Declares Boxing Is Dead in New York"

"Jun 1, 1923 - Boxing Is Dead Sport, Says Chicago's Mayor Chicago, May 31. -- Boxing "is a dead sport," Mayor William 13. Dever declared tonight when informed that James Mul- len, promoter of. lust Tuesday's engage- ment between Benny Leonard and Pinkie Mitchell, which ended in a fist fight be- tween ... "

Jun 2, 1942 - Promoters gen erally hold the view that due to In creased taxes they cannot afford "cuts" to that therefore boxing is dead.

Nov 29, 1943 - Others say, yeah, boxing is dead game; it smells like dead game that been lying under the sun for . The optimists and well-wishers that boxing has lost its champs and stars, but that there are still good fights to be seen.

1957- wrestling promoter: I know what this is all about," he declared. The commission is running In the red because boxing is dead and it wants to tap some of the gates we're getting.


Jun 15, 1957 - WHO SAYS BOXING* i IS DEAD. Yesterday morning s sports pages in TV TaimuNz were about the liveliest we have been

un 22, 1960 - Don't tell me boxing is dead. HARRY KECK All it needs is for the people be as honest with themselves in their appraisal of it as they insist that boxing be. For every Jake lamotta in boxing there are thousands of well-meaning boxers, managers and promoters who are on the level and

1962 - Boxing is dead in Baltimore It is almost dead everywhere

Dec 18, 1962 - Boxing is dead or dying in many parts of the world, but in Italy it is a fact.

Jun 9, 1963 - THE many sports fans who believe that boxing is dead or dying can get the argu ment of their lives by looking up HerbertBuddy

Jan 7, 1965 - Unless something is done very soon, boxing is dead. "Right now there s too much politics in the various commissions. They mean well, but they don't know what they re doing

Feb 3, 1965 - But after what this one did, don't listen to arguments that boxing is dead. The paying public wants live fights so badly that the Garden soid out days ahead of the fight.

May 28, 1966 - Some say boxing is dead If so its ghosts cer tainly are kingsized


1969
Jun 17, 1969 - Don't you believe those stories that boxing is dead. The heavyweight fight between Jerry Quarry and Joe Frazier next Monday night has captured the fancy of the fight mob. It looks now as though it will do an 800000 gate at Madison Square Garden, the biggest indoor take in history.
(nice to see promoters haven't changed either)


1969
Jun 17, 1969 - Dies that boxing is dead. The heavyweight fight between Jerry Quarry and Joe Frazier next Monday night has captured the fancy of the fight mob. It looks now as though it will do an 800000 gate at Madison Square Garden, the biggest indoor take in history.

un 20, 1969 - If boxing is dead, as a few allege and suspect, then Madison Square Garden on Monday night will be the scene of the liveliest wake since our "byes" in Canaryville said farewell to Nuts Nolan.


Feb 4, 1974 - The evidence says boxing is dead.


Aug 4, 1974 - Anyone who says boxing is dead is speaking and thinking in cliches. As the new president of the Garden, Mr.' Coheri should realize that he is now in show business, Boxing does not so much need a "bottom-line" executive as it needs an imaginative promoter and showman willing to take

Oct 31, 1974 - With Muhammad now unchallenged at the top, the dimwits again will chorus that boxing is dead. They've been saying this since before Sports Illustrated began investigating a fix in the Cain vs. Abel match. If boxing has been dead, you ve been sitting in on the longest wake in history


Nov 27, 1975 - "Each year the new people up here keep telling me boxing is dead but they don't seem to realize that boxing never before had three heavyweights like Ali, Prazier and Foreman at the same time. The new people keep talking about the good old days in boxing

Jun 15, 1976 - They say boxing is dead They say wrestling is dead I predict we will have a bigger crowd than at any of my fights They say it s dead Well rm the resurrector The Resurrector Well have a big crowd The Asian world The karate world The judo world The Bruce Lee world Pleeasse get your ...


1977 - . I have news for Lea Boxing is dead with him.

1977 - says Ali "although I might like to be a lecturer " If, as claims, "boxing is dead when I'm not involved," what will happen to the sport when he does finally retire'

Christ this can go on for ever. Basically it goes on with the press saying there will be no one afte Ali, then Ali saying there will be no one after him, then the press saying there will be no one after Tyson, then Tyson saying there will be no one after him.
 
30 years from now, people gon be saying boxing is dead.
 
Yeah, lol, someone over at BoxingScene brought up this point a while back too.

My favorite "boxing is dead" quote comes from Black Belt Magazine:

“With the gradual dying of boxing as a national sport, judo seems the perfect replacement“

Black Belt Magazine, 1964
 
Oh man, because those big Judo title fights...whoah...
 
Sinister what was your quote again went something like in the end people will pay to see fists fly...

Anyways thanks for the thread TS.
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Boxing is dead? Duh, who killed him? What's his win-loss record?
 
Sinister what was your quote again went something like in the end people will pay to see fists fly...

Anyways thanks for the thread TS.
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Kid McCoy originally said it:

"Fear not, when all the kid games have faded to lore, people will still fight with their fists for money."
 
Kid McCoy originally said it:

"Fear not, when all the kid games have faded to lore, people will still fight with their fists for money."

I miss kid mccoy, and tam tam, and ............. alotofotherguys
 
boxing's been dead to me for years now. MMA and grappling are superior and far more beautiful to me.

I am just one insignificant person. To millions and millions it is still alive and well and that's great. I think all sports have their place on the global scale. Boxing is an amazing sport and ESPN rated it as being the TOUGHEST sport. Just straight up the hardest sport to become adept at. It will always have a place in society because something that is the toughest has to count for something after millions of years of evolving to respect that which is bad-ass.

but make no mistake MMA and Grappling are the divine sports upon which the Lord smiles. boxing is nothing compared to those sports. absolutely nothing.
 
boxing's been dead to me for years now. MMA and grappling are superior and far more beautiful to me.

I am just one insignificant person. To millions and millions it is still alive and well and that's great. I think all sports have their place on the global scale. Boxing is an amazing sport and ESPN rated it as being the TOUGHEST sport. Just straight up the hardest sport to become adept at. It will always have a place in society because something that is the toughest has to count for something after millions of years of evolving to respect that which is bad-ass.

but make no mistake MMA and Grappling are the divine sports upon which the Lord smiles. boxing is nothing compared to those sports. absolutely nothing.

Ignorance is bliss.
 
Well I found this old newspaper today up in the attic, maybe it's true :(

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boxing, mma, and any other combat sport will never die men will always engage in combat
 
Great thread OP. Boxing as other have said was around long before world titles and packed arenas, and it'll be around long after everyone posting on this site has gone.

And if it does go, we always have judo to look forward to
" Oh man, did you see that Ippon Seoinage?"
 
They may have been saying it but all those other times there wasn't a massive alternative combat sport like MMA around in the mainstream. Boxing was able to survive because there was no alternative out there. Boxing will always have a place as a valued fighting discipline but the glory days are gone. MMA has picked up the torch.
 
They may have been saying it but all those other times there wasn't a massive alternative combat sport like MMA around in the mainstream. Boxing was able to survive because there was no alternative out there. Boxing will always have a place as a valued fighting discipline but the glory days are gone. MMA has picked up the torch.

Yes, MMA is clearly flourishing...

Wait... MMA is less popular than it was a few years back?

How can that be?
 
People forget the spectacle of boxing and not the power it once held but the ferocity it still possesses. Floyd vs Pac would be a great reminder to MMA whom has owned combat sports for the better part of a century
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They may have been saying it but all those other times there wasn't a massive alternative combat sport like MMA around in the mainstream. Boxing was able to survive because there was no alternative out there. Boxing will always have a place as a valued fighting discipline but the glory days are gone. MMA has picked up the torch.

I don't know what you think "glory days" are, but Pacquiao basically owns his home Country. You can't go anywhere without seeing his face, and he's become a media darling in the US. Fighters get paid now more than they ever have before, and there's more "big" events now than there ever were before. Not to mention that an old fat Boxer made more money in a circus sideshow act in MMA than most MMA fighters make.

I think this "glory days" thing is something people like you make up as a talking point, without actually ever once learning the History of what it is you're speaking on. Not only that, but you're not paying attention to the thing you're giving credit to. Right this second MMA is like the NFL. Americans believe it's the greatest up-coming thing, the rest of the World is lukewarm to it at best. In some Countries it's looked at as a funny little novelty because of the characters involved.

Now, it may not be like that forever, and it would be nice to see MMA grow into a mature Combat Sport, especially to give competition grapplers a Professional medium to go into and earn a living doing what they do (and kickboxers the same thing in the US), but it's not picking up any "torch" left over by Boxing. Boxing has well-established it's own identity. It has a strong Amateur level that will always produce talent, and the Amateur level has grown with the induction of the World Series. There's nothing for MMA to pick up that's left behind by Boxing save for guys like Pulver, Davis, and Noons, who weren't that good at Boxing to begin with.
 
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